Would Third Reich last as long as Soviet Union?

How long would Nazi Germany last if it had beat Russia and had all of Europe except the UK to itself?

So let's say they win on the Eastern Front and the UK/USA for whatever reason decide not to continue the war with them so we have a cold war style situation instead.

Would Germany have a stable economy? Would the economy be based around anything in particular? Would they become a fairly competent superpower? Would they last long enough so we see Rambo fighting them in Afghanistan ala Rambo 3?
 

Ryan

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How long would Nazi Germany last if it had beat Russia and had all of Europe except the UK to itself?

until they run out of slaves or restructure their economy.

Would Germany have a stable economy? Would the economy be based around anything in particular?

their economy would be based around the slave labour of all the untermensch in their territory who they want to work to death. i suppose it would be fairly stable albeit inefficient until they run out, at which point they have to restructure their economy or collapse.

Would they become a fairly competent superpower?

given their ideological views i can't see them wanting to support any country outside of Europe. i imagine they'd end up like the soviets without soft power- only able to exert force in their immediate neighbourhood with their "superness" being derived from having enough nukes to effectively destroy america (and the other allies) as a viable state.

Would they last long enough so we see Rambo fighting them in Afghanistan ala Rambo 3?

Germany won't border Afghanistan in any realistic scenario, so i can't see how they would manage to puppet them. However, if they did have a puppet with an insurgency issue like communist Afghanistan did, i wouldn't bet on the insurgents lasting long before they, their village and everyone they've ever met are dead. the problem with insurgency's is that they won't work against someone who's willing to commit genocide.
 
Germany won't border Afghanistan in any realistic scenario, so i can't see how they would manage to puppet them. However, if they did have a puppet with an insurgency issue like communist Afghanistan did, i wouldn't bet on the insurgents lasting long before they, their village and everyone they've ever met are dead. the problem with insurgency's is that they won't work against someone who's willing to commit genocide.
The USSR didn't exactly fight under modern day NATO counterinsurgency ROE either to say the least. You got to remember that dispute on paper being neighbouring countries, they didn't exactly have the best logistical connection between Afghanistan and the Soviet centres of production, etc. Also Afghanistan itself is very mountainous and has poor infrastucture. That together makes it very hard for a high-tech force to deploy it's firepower effectively.

In other words I agree that the chances of a successful insurgency in Western Europe, with "compact" nations and dense infrastructure are practically nil, but away from their centres of power is another matter. Perhaps their Vietnam/Afghanistan could be trying to bail out a pro-Nazi White Nationalist gouvernment in South Africa.
A Bushwar somewhere in the African interior far away from the ports would be exactly what they are not really trained, equipped, acclimatized, etc to handle. Especially if perhaps at the same time they are "assissting" their French clients in Algeria.
Stretch them far enough and eventually insurgents in Europe might smell blood in the water.
 
How long would Nazi Germany last if it had beat Russia and had all of Europe except the UK to itself?

So let's say they win on the Eastern Front and the UK/USA for whatever reason decide not to continue the war with them so we have a cold war style situation instead.

Would Germany have a stable economy? Would the economy be based around anything in particular? Would they become a fairly competent superpower? Would they last long enough so we see Rambo fighting them in Afghanistan ala Rambo 3?

I think that a successful 3rd Reich would have very limited options, at least for a while. For one thing, I doubt that they'd be able to find many partners to trade with on an international scale. Their best bet for lasting a long time would be for Hitler to die shortly after obtaining victory. It also depends on how the 3rd Reich 'won' WWII. Did they just decide not to invade the Soviets? Did Hitler not declare war on the US? Something else? I think that it's possible that a cold war could develop between the 3rd Reich and another surviving superpower, such as the Soviets.
 
Assuming a Nazi victory in WWII, the Reich has many more resources than the USSR did after WWII. It inherits the infrastructure of Western Europe relatively intact, and German infrastructure has not suffered like OTL. The infrastructure of the Reich allies: Hungary, Italy, Romania, Bulgaria is intact. Germany has Czech, and other industry as part of the Großdeutsches Reich (depending on how much of Norway/Denamrk/Holland/Belgium they actually annex). It now has a good deal of resources available in the conquered areas of the USSR, including the oil resources. Sure a lot of construction/repair will be needed in Ostland, but slave labor can clear rubble, grade roads, etc. In the coming years the oil/gas finds in North Africa will come on line owned by Italy and Vichy France, both part of the German orbit. Outside of the wartime allies and occupied territories you have Spain in the fascist orbit. Finland and Sweden have no choice but to be on good terms with the Reich (even if they don't deport their Jews), likewise Switzerland. Turkey now finds it self faced by Italy/Germany and allies in the Balkans/Greece, and most of the Med except Malta and Cyprus, Egypt and Palestine/Transjordan, and Syria is still part of Vichy, so it has to be friendly to Germany.

Leaving Asia aside, as the state of that is not covered (was there US-Japan war, etc), some countries in South America such as Argentina will be tilted towards the Nazis as OTL.

Given that the Nazis will come out of the war way ahead of where the USSR did in terms of viable industry and infrastructure, and their allies/economic circle will be much better off than much of what the USSR inherited - basically Eastern Europe with the exception of Poland will be untouched and of course Central and Western Europe either actual German territory or part of their economy, they exceed the economic power of the USSR by several times over even at the USSR's top. Even if they go to pieces at the same rate as the USSR they have a lot further to fall so they last longer. Also, the National Socialist ideology was not the reason for German economic issues in WWII, it was the byzantine empire building that Hitler encouraged. In the USSR, Marxist-Leninist ideology drove a lot of economic issues which means less economic flexibility. Finally, as disgusting as the Nazi plans for slavery were, other than the most unpleasant or dangerous tasks slaves were never supposed to be a major factor in industry. IMHO once a lot of slaves have been exterminated through labor cleaning up the mess in the east and doing grunt work in building/reconstruction, there will be a relatively small slave population in personal service for the well off, agricultural work in the east, garbage collection, dangerous/unhealthful resource extraction etc.

A victorious Germany will be a Hellhole for those not racially in the top tier, however this does not mean they will be totally economically incompetent especially in a peacetime and post Hitler environment.
 
If the Germans do get allies in Latin America, would it be caused by local fascists using anti-US sentiment to seize power or tge local strongman deciding he likes partners who don't moan about human rights violations (or even both)?
 
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