Would the Vandalic Language be Romance or Germanic [if it Existed Today]?

The Vandals spoke a Germanic dialect that was very similar to Gothic and were probably mutually intelligible between the two.

If the Vandals had not been conquered by the Byzantines or the Muslims and made it into the modern age as a recognizable ethnic group and people what kind of language would they speak nowadays?

Would they go the way of the Franks or Visigoths and adopt a form of Vulgar Latin as their language with more or less German influence. Or would they still speak a tongue close to their original language?
 
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The Vandals spoke a Germanic dialect that was very similar to Gothic and were probably mutually intelligible between the two.

If the Vandals had not been conquered by the Byzantines or the Muslims and made it into the modern age as a recognizable ethnic group and people what kind of language would they speak nowadays?

Would they go the way of the Franks or Visigoths and adopt a form of Vulgar Latin as their language with more or less German influence. Or would they still speak a tongue close to their original language?

Maybe they would intermingle with the Berbers as well ...
 
Honestly, I think they would speak African Romance as they were culturally assimilated to the general population; thus Vandalic would be defined as "a Romance language spoken in Vandalia (OTL Tunisia), related to Sardinian".
 
There weren't enough Vandals in North Africa to keep it alive anymore than Frankish. They would be speaking the descendent languages of African Romance today, which would have heavy Berber influence the same way Romanian has heavy Slavic influence. Probably also a bit of Punic influence the same way French has Gaulish influence.
 
There weren't enough Vandals in North Africa to keep it alive anymore than Frankish. They would be speaking the descendent languages of African Romance today, which would have heavy Berber influence the same way Romanian has heavy Slavic influence. Probably also a bit of Punic influence the same way French has Gaulish influence.

What if they doubled up like the Angles with another barbarian tribe?Like the Suebs?​
 
What if they doubled up like the Angles with another barbarian tribe?Like the Suebs?​

They did, except the tribe the Vandals migrated with (the Alans) didn't even speak a Germanic language, they spoke an Iranian language closest related to modern Ossetian.
 
Nowdays is a tough question, but honestly they'd probably all assimilate. So Romance/Berber.

Arabic/Berber if Islam somehow isn't butterflied.
 

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African Romance. Theres too much pressure to Romanize, and the Vandals have way too little numbers, prestige or reputation to fight that incentive. Assuming the Saharan Berbers don't conquer them first.
 
As many said before, African Romance. Vandal or Alan influences would not reach much deeper than perhaps the name of the language and the state, if it is to endure. Berber influence would be stronger than it, perhaps even Neopunic influence.

If it is to endure for whatever reason, then the question is, does that very same reason also prolong the life of Romanised Mauri polities in former Tingitana? If so, then I`d suppose their language would be the closest relative to Vandalian, although perhaps more Berberised.
 
As many said before, African Romance. Vandal or Alan influences would not reach much deeper than perhaps the name of the language and the state, if it is to endure. Berber influence would be stronger than it, perhaps even Neopunic influence.

If it is to endure for whatever reason, then the question is, does that very same reason also prolong the life of Romanised Mauri polities in former Tingitana? If so, then I`d suppose their language would be the closest relative to Vandalian, although perhaps more Berberised.

If Morocco doesn't speak African Romance, they'll speak a variety of Berber languages. We already know Latin was established there to some degree since Berber languages in Morocco have long had Latin loanwords.
 
The Vandal kingdom was in Tunisia, not Morocco. Roman presence in Morocco was brief and for a long time distant and limited (Mauretania protectorate), while Tunis (Carthage) was an economic, intellectual and religious center of the Roman and early Christian world.

By the way, even in OTL Morocco Arabic is the prestige language and Berber the country bumpkins' speak.
 
If Morocco doesn't speak African Romance, they'll speak a variety of Berber languages. We already know Latin was established there to some degree since Berber languages in Morocco have long had Latin loanwords.

The Vandal kingdom was in Tunisia, not Morocco. Roman presence in Morocco was brief and for a long time distant and limited (Mauretania protectorate), while Tunis (Carthage) was an economic, intellectual and religious center of the Roman and early Christian world.
Tocomocho is right; Vandalia is in present-day Tunisia, and if Morocco would have acquired a Romance language spoken by a significant part of population, it would be Mozarabic
 
Why so much Mozarabic and not an independent Romance language? It could always be like Romania which was hardly a part of the Latin world but was thoroughly Romanised. Although definitely Mauretania would evolve (did evolve?) a separate Romance language from OTL Tunisia.
 
Modern Vandalic, becoming a language like French or remaining the descendant language of old Vandalic would depend on a couple of things.
To remain a germanic language the Vandals would need to remain Arrian, using Gothic as their Liturgical language. They also would need an area where they where the majority, So rather than assimilating to latin the minority in the area would need to assimilate to them. Vandalic would need to become the language of the government, then anyone wanting to float to the top would need to speak Vandalic. I thing it could end up like English with lots of Romance and lots of Berber in it.
More likely Vandalic would be a romance language with some germanic and berber borrowings.
 
There's no chance of the Vandals' Germanic language surviving. African Romance would be in its own branch of the Romance languages. Vulgar Latin with Punic, Berber, and some Gothic influence.

For the closest feel to a plausible African Romance, you might look at Spanish or Sicilian. Those languages have a history of Germanic and Semitic influence, much like this would have had.
 
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Perhaps the Vandals should have taken Morocco instead of Tunisia in order to survive as an independent entity, and made a safe haven somewhere in the mountains.
 
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