Would North Vietnam be like North Korea today if it lost the Vietnam War?

However, it is worth noting that the Soviet Union and China also successfully built nuclear weapons and had huge militaries.

Are you o_O i don't even okay lets spell out the differences one if a fucking country of 1.4 BILLION People and a GDP of the US with ambitions in the region the other has the advantage of a whole shitload of Soviet gear who the fuck does that have anything to do with North Vietnam the answer to your question is no the NV with not be like the DPRK the DPRK is very much an outlier
 

CaliGuy

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Are you o_O i don't even okay lets spell out the differences one if a fucking country of 1.4 BILLION People and a GDP of the US with ambitions in the region the other has the advantage of a whole shitload of Soviet gear who the fuck does that have anything to do with North Vietnam the answer to your question is no the NV with not be like the DPRK the DPRK is very much an outlier
OK; however, please keep in mind that North Vietnam would probably have something like two times the population of North Korea.
 
Why was South Korea's elite much more capable of running their country?

Probably because even though Japanese colonialism is really brutal, it helped develop an efficient bureaucracy. The French colonialism was really messy and never really put an effort to develop the country. We Americans had the lucky job of developing it and other nation- building plans in the matter of a grand war.
 
No, the DRV at the most suffered interparty struggles based on the Sino-Soviet Split, there never was the possibility of a cult of personality or any one person to control the party. Ho was marginalized rather quickly by Le Duan, Le Duan saw himself marginalized again at one point after Tet failed, and while Le Duan was still in power, China's shitty and petty behavior saw Le harassed by the Chinese over a small faux pas that he decided to back the Soviets and got invaded by China for his troubles, after invading Cambodia.
 

CaliGuy

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No, the DRV at the most suffered interparty struggles based on the Sino-Soviet Split, there never was the possibility of a cult of personality or any one person to control the party. Ho was marginalized rather quickly by Le Duan, Le Duan saw himself marginalized again at one point after Tet failed, and while Le Duan was still in power, China's shitty and petty behavior saw Le harassed by the Chinese over a small faux pas that he decided to back the Soviets and got invaded by China for his troubles, after invading Cambodia.
What was Le's faux pas?

Also, could North Vietnam have a nuclear weapons program as well as a missile program?
 
What was Le's faux pas?

Also, could North Vietnam have a nuclear weapons program as well as a missile program?

Le called the Soviet Union a second fatherland.

Since North Vietnam was so divided I don't think they would have seen Nuclear Weapons as viable. North Vietnam had two factions the North First and South First factions. The North First faction, think Ho Chi Minh, supported developing North Vietnam, nuclear weapons would not be on the table because that could mean taking away resources for development. As for the South First faction, nuclear weapons could bring in more U.S attention, and I'd argue that neither the Chinese or Soviets in their support of the DRV, would see nukes as anything more than a harm.

What is might seldom is that after the Korean War, North Korea received tons of aid, in contrast to North Vietnam, there's a reason why North Korea is an outlier. The European Communist nations save Albania and Yugoslavia saw their resources taken from them by the Soviets under Stalin. China had very little option but to give the Soviets under Stalin concessions for an alliance. Mongolia was developed to provide the Soviets with resources under Stalin as well, and it could have been seen as risky for the Communist nations of the former Indochina. None of this was the case with North Korea.
 
OK; however, please keep in mind that North Vietnam would probably have something like two times the population of North Korea.

And what? the infrastructure isn't there Ho has no intention of being a hereditary dictator not to mention being somewhat ousted by the south first faction IIRC in short no the chance is minor
 
The difference between Vietnam and Korea was how the area commanders handled them. General Charles Patch Bondesteel (USA/UN Commander ROK 1966-1969) kept North Korea from having success in breading a South Korean insurgency, thus South Korea did not suffer the battles and damages that Westmoreland inflicted on South Vietnam. This is part 2 of my You Tube history series on the Korean DMZ

 

GujaratiRaj

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The fact that North Korea is on a peninsula, having water on 2 sides and South Korea and China on the others.The location of North Korea caused Juche and the Kim family personality cult. North Vietnam would just be annexed by China or South Vietnam.
 
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