Would Heydrich's survival have any profound effect on WWII?

WI Reinhard Heydrich, one of the most notorious Nazi figures during WWII, survived his assassination. would he have any profound effects on the war? from what I heard, some people think that had he survived, Hitler would have made him the governor of France.

BTW, lets say that he does live, how would you think he would act during the Nuremberg trials? I'm 100% sure that the allies would have him executed for his role in engineering the Holocaust and his brutal anti-partisan tactics but how do you think he would plead? Im not too sure that he would be the type to go for the "following orders" routine. hell what if he even gets a fate similar to Eichmann?
 
mate, have you read THE MAN WITH THE IRON HEART ? I think some aspects would be a bit far-fetched- such as Heydrich's personal influence to stockplie SO much weaponry & manpower to wage a terrorist campaign against Allied occupation forces- but still quite interesting...
 
I've heard of the book but I haven't read it yet. I read some reviews on it and most people didn't think it was Turtledove's best work. I'll probably pick it up one of these days because sometimes I just don't care for the plausibility and simply want a good read (Draka books:cool:).hopefully, TMWItH
will prove to be the later.

While I don't agree either that he would be able to pull a Werewolf on the allies, I still think that he might pose as a threat during the war.
 
If Heydrich survives his assassination attempt and is made governor of France, AND manages to achieve the same effect in France as he did in Czechoslovakia on a larger scale, I think it would make an impact on the war itself. With more equipment and greater logistical support coming from Occupied France, Germany might be able to hold out for a few more months.
 
If Heydrich survives his assassination attempt and is made governor of France, AND manages to achieve the same effect in France as he did in Czechoslovakia on a larger scale

It's by no means certain that he would have though.

Also, if he lives to the end of the war, there's no question the allies will hang him. Otherwise he would flee to exile in South America as many other prominent Nazis did.
 
Well, if anyone would have been in a position to either back Himmler in a coup, or launch a coup against Himmler it would have been Heydrich

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mate, have you read THE MAN WITH THE IRON HEART ? I think some aspects would be a bit far-fetched- such as Heydrich's personal influence to stockplie SO much weaponry & manpower to wage a terrorist campaign against Allied occupation forces- but still quite interesting...

Or Fatherland for that matter as that book has him surviving to becoming Himmler's successor.

Heydrich was a bit of a maverick and might pull off a coup or two if he clings to life. I doubt whether the outcome of the war will be altered unless he somehow gets involved with the July 20th plotters and with greater access to Hitler, maybe the coup could succeed etc etc.
 
For him to survive he would have to take his personal security seriously. If he had been more aware and not stood up to fire back against his RL attackers he would have survived the attack. Thus to stop Heydrich getting killed by the resistance or some OSS agents in France, he would need to either be ordered or become more aware of personal security.
 

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Or Fatherland for that matter as that book has him surviving to becoming Himmler's successor.

Heydrich was a bit of a maverick and might pull off a coup or two if he clings to life. I doubt whether the outcome of the war will be altered unless he somehow gets involved with the July 20th plotters and with greater access to Hitler, maybe the coup could succeed etc etc.

IIRC in EdT's "A Greater Britain", in which the Nazis are ousted after a failed Anschluss (speaking in simplified terms), Heydrich leads a Fourth Reich coup sometime between the 1940s and 1970s. Not especially relevant to this thread but it does tie in with what you said.
 

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Hm. This brings forth an interesting idea. The 'Nazi Dream Team'. Otto Skorenzy, Reinhard Heydrich and Martin Bormann.
 

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Impressive.
and Horrifying.

In few words, yes, that's exactly what I felt as well. The three most competent and otherwise dangerous men of the Nazi movement. I thought about putting in Hermann Goering, albeit, with the catch that he doesn't become a druggie. That would probably be the icing on the cake.
 

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Resistance would have been bloodier in France and the Low Countries.

Probably as it is bloodily crushed. The greatest resistance in France was from the Communists, while most Frenchmen collaborated, regardless of the postwar propaganda.

Heydrich will probably angle himself to the top slot in the SS, after finding a convenient way to remove Himmler, leaving that organization better run. What effect that will have, I have no clue. But most major thing will be that it ensures that Army Group Vistula is competently run in the last days of the war instead of being horrifically mismanaged by Himmler. This means the Russian advance in Poland is stymied for longer.
 
this is most likely ASB but do you think that once Hitler realizes that France will be liberated, he would give Heydrich the same order to blow up Paris that he did to his other general?(forgot his name) If so, what are the chances of Paris burning?
 
this is most likely ASB but do you think that once Hitler realizes that France will be liberated, he would give Heydrich the same order to blow up Paris that he did to his other general?(forgot his name) If so, what are the chances of Paris burning?

I would expect Paris to be aflame. Some Italian cities along with Paris were saved from total annihilation by German units not fighting within them. If Heydrich is in charge of France, perhaps the SS are tasked to blow up Paris or a SS division remains in Paris to slow the Allied advance...
 
It's by no means certain that he would have though.

Also, if he lives to the end of the war, there's no question the allies will hang him. Otherwise he would flee to exile in South America as many other prominent Nazis did.

And gotten busted by the Israelis just like Eichmann. :D
 
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