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No,but it hasn't been proved that he didn't plan an invasion on Germany,however there are many proofs that Stalin had planned an invasion.
What's the proof he planned an invasion?
No,but it hasn't been proved that he didn't plan an invasion on Germany,however there are many proofs that Stalin had planned an invasion.
The duration of service was 2 years and they were drafted on 1 September 1939There is a difference between having something in the plans to be ennacted at the right time, witch Stalin most definitely had, then to have something planned for a few weeks latter, witch Stalin most definitely didn't have.
The Red army was still railling from the purges at this point and in process of reorganisation, witch explain how much of a curbstomp the first weeks of the war where, and its likely Stalin would have likely waited at least a year more if had a free hand.
The duration of service was 2 years and they were drafted on 1 September 1939
The duration of service was 2 years and they were drafted on 1 September 1939
One of the proofs is that the soldiers were drafted for two years until 1 September 1941.Another point(which I am not sure of)is that Stalin helped Hitler rise to power by forbidding German Communists to make common cause with the Social Democrats and win the elections.Then his plan was to invade and liberate(by installing new socialist governments)Europe.What's the proof he planned an invasion?
Why were they so unprepared?Because they didn't expect that Nazi Germany would attack?Which proves nothing. In the meantime, none of the necessary supporting elements of the Red Army has been mobilized like they would have to have been if the Soviets were to be attacking in a few weeks time. That alone is enough to debunk Suvorov's Icebreaker theory.
One of the proofs is that the soldiers were drafted for two years until 1 September 1941.Another point(which I am not sure of)is that Stalin helped Hitler rise to power by forbidding German Communists to make common cause with the Social Democrats and win the elections.Then his plan was to invade and liberate(by installing new socialist governments)Europe.
Why were they so unprepared?Because they didn't expect that Nazi Germany would attack?
They weren't prepared for a defensive war,and the Germans took many of their planes, tanks and other weapons and killed many Soviets during the first few weeks of BarbarossaYes, and because they didn't expect to attack either. Had the Soviets actually had the ability to attack out of the frontier region, then they would have had the ability to defend the frontier regions. As events on June 22nd were to show, they couldn't do that. The Red Army in 1941 wasn't prepared for war at all... either defensively or offensively.
One of the proofs is that the soldiers were drafted for two years until 1 September 1941.
I mean Hitler could certainly bide his time and delay an invasion of the Soviet Union until the 1950s after the Germans are able to develop nuclear weapons.
They weren't prepared for a defensive war
They were prepared for an offensive war,it's not the same as a defensive war,but I don't believe that Stalin didn't know about Barbarossa a few weeks(or even days)before it happenedThat's the point: one has to be able to wage a defensive if one want's to then be able to wage an offensive war. If the Red Army wasn't prepared to wage a defensive war, then they weren't prepared to wage a offensive war. But the Red Army wasn't prepared to wage a defensive war, so by extension the idea then that the Red Army was prepared to launch an offensive war on June 22nd, as they would have had to have been if they were going to launch one on July 8th, can be handily dismissed.
One of the proofs is that the soldiers were drafted for two years until 1 September 1941.Another point(which I am not sure of)is that Stalin helped Hitler rise to power by forbidding German Communists to make common cause with the Social Democrats and win the elections.Then his plan was to invade and liberate(by installing new socialist governments)Europe.
No,whole Europe,but almost all countries were occupied by the Germans or they were German alliesInvade who, just Germany?
They were prepared for an offensive war,it's not the same as a defensive war
my understanding is that if they don't attack the USSR, the Germany economy is going to become an economic satellite of the USSR anyway because they were buying lots of stuff from them.
Nah, it would have been a long war but I am sure Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland would have won eventually.Suppose Hitler was not stupid enough to go to war against Russia and America, but limited himself to conquering Poland, France and defeating (but not occupying) England. Could he have won such a war?
OTL soviets in 1941 almost lost,becouse soldiers hate communism and surrender amost without a fight.One example.On Belorus,2 soviet panzer and 2 mechanized dyvisions was ordered to attack one german infrantry dyvision on 24.06.41.They had 1200 working tanks,including 114 Kw1,8 artillery and 6 infrantry regiments.german was attacked by less then 200 light tanks without infrantry supported by ONE battery.Rest just run.What Hitler did? throw prisoners into labor camps,when most die.After that,soviet start to fight.Suppose Hitler was not stupid enough to go to war against Russia and America, but limited himself to conquering Poland, France and defeating (but not occupying) England. Could he have won such a war?