Worst presidents Ever

WyldCard4

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You can't have that bad a line without people getting sick of it and bringing in fresh blood.

Just my opinion.
 
But seriously.

Ignoring butterflies (which are huge) and only going after candidates that were or wanted to be the candidate for their party, I'll go with:

Henry A. Wallace (D)(1945-1949)
-too soft on communism, radical leftist (for the US)

Robert Taft (R)(1949-1953)
-too old, too conservative, not likely to make the UN or NATO work at all

Harold Stassen (R)(1953-1957)
-too liberal, too early, tries to jump start desegregation and fails miserably

Adlai Stevenson (D)(1957-1961)
-too idealistic, too self-believing for the Cold War

Richard Nixon (R)(1961-1969)
-do I need to say anything?

George Wallace (D)(1969-1977)
-racist, populist.

...and there are too many butterflies there to continue.

Note that I'm saying nothing about the men, just that their views would have been bad for the time they would've been president.
 
what's the worst post-FDR line-up of presidents possible?

The line-up in "For All Time" was very bad. The POD is that FDR dies suddenly in late December 1941...

IIRC, there was Henry Wallace, followed by Robert Taft, Thomas Dewey, Joseph P. Kennedy Jr, Robert LaFollete, Clark Gable, Barry Goldwater, Joseph Foss, George McGovern, Jim Jones, and then a ten-year military government led by Alexander Haig. Haig is succeeded by Slade Gorton, who is then finally defeated by the Republican ticket of Russ Feingold and Pat Buchanan.
 
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But seriously.

Henry A. Wallace (D)(1945-1949)
-too soft on communism, radical leftist (for the US)

George Wallace (D)(1969-1977)
-racist, populist.

I guess that after those two neither left or right would want to elect a guy with wallace as last name :D
 
But seriously.

Ignoring butterflies (which are huge) and only going after candidates that were or wanted to be the candidate for their party, I'll go with:

Henry A. Wallace (D)(1945-1949)
-too soft on communism, radical leftist (for the US)

Robert Taft (R)(1949-1953)
-too old, too conservative, not likely to make the UN or NATO work at all

Harold Stassen (R)(1953-1957)
-too liberal, too early, tries to jump start desegregation and fails miserably

Adlai Stevenson (D)(1957-1961)
-too idealistic, too self-believing for the Cold War

Richard Nixon (R)(1961-1969)
-do I need to say anything?

George Wallace (D)(1969-1977)
-racist, populist.

...and there are too many butterflies there to continue.

Note that I'm saying nothing about the men, just that their views would have been bad for the time they would've been president.

Good list, but I'd try to fit Barry Goldwater and Spiro Agnew in there somewhere. Oh, and I know who can succeed George Wallace: Pat Robertson.
 
Richard Nixon (R)(1961-1969)
-do I need to say anything?

Actually, he might be the best of the bunch. True, he was a complete illegitimate lovechild, but at least he was competent.
 

Nietzsche

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Actually, he might be the best of the bunch. True, he was a complete illegitimate lovechild, but at least he was competent.
He went to China. That stops me from hating him.


But, yes Pat Robertson would be a 'good' addition to the list.

Fred Phelps, maybe, possibly..that's nigh ASB, but you never know..
 
Goldwater wasn't quite as bad as the left makes out.

No, but putting him in a crisis situation wouldn't be fun.

Edited list:

Henry A. Wallace (D)(1945-1949)
-too soft on communism, radical leftist (for the US)

Robert Taft (R)(1949-1953)
-too old, too conservative, not likely to make the UN or NATO work at all

Harold Stassen (R)(1953-1957)
-too liberal, too early, tries to jump start desegregation and fails miserably

Adlai Stevenson (D)(1957*)
-too idealistic, but only REALLY on this list so that he can get assassinated so that we can get his veep...

John Sparkman (D)(1957-1961)
-how about a president who is actively against racial integration?

Wayne Morse (D)(1961-1965)
-voted against Tonkin in OTL, votes against the military at the height of the Cold War, indecisive and too far left

Barry Goldwater (R)(1965-1973)
-Agent Orange in Vietnam? How about Agent Instant Sunshine!

George Wallace (D)(1973-1981)
-racist, populist

Phil Crane (R)(1981-1985)
-head of CPAC's precursors, alcoholic

Jesse Jackson (D)(1985-1989)
-I think you get the picture

Donald Rumsfeld (D)(1989-1997)
-Oh boy!

Steve Forbes (R)(1997-2005)
-flat tax rate, PNAC guy

Wesley Clark (D)(2005-present)
-first Dem in 16 years, no Dem politicians since George Wallace...America isn't a nice place
 
ok heres my list:

Henry A. Wallace {D} (45-49)

Douglas MacArthur {R} (49-57)

Richard M. Nixon {R} (57-65)

William C. Westmoreland {D} (65-69)

Nelson A. Rockefeller {R} (69-73)

Hubert H. Humphrey {D} (73-77)
 
Woodrow Wilson: too busy trying to beat the Kaiser, to make any effort at combating the great influenza outbreak.
 
Oh, God, President MacArthur. That's just frightening. President Rumsfeld is.. almost as bad. Wesley Clark, I don't think he's a huge militarist, he just has crappy judgement.
 

maverick

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1945 Henry Wallace (D)
1949 Joseph McCarthy (R)
1953 Strom Thurmond (D)
1961 Douglas MacArthur (R)
1963 Curtis LeMay (R)
1969 Eugene McCarthy (D)
1977 George Wallace (D/A)
1985 Jerry Brown (D)
1989 Pat Buchanan (R)
1997 Jessee Jackson (R)
2005 Mike Huckabee (R)
 
1945 Henry Wallace (D)
1949 Joseph McCarthy (R)
1953 Strom Thurmond (D)
1961 Douglas MacArthur (R)
1963 Curtis LeMay (R)
1969 Eugene McCarthy (D)
1977 George Wallace (D/A)
1985 Jerry Brown (D)
1989 Pat Buchanan (R)
1997 Jessee Jackson (R)
2005 Mike Huckabee (R)

How does Strom Thurmond become president?

Why is Jesse Jackson a Republican? He's not!
 
The line-up in "For All Time" was very bad. The POD is that FDR dies suddenly in late December 1941...

IIRC, there was Henry Wallace, followed by Robert Taft, Thomas Dewey, Joseph P. Kennedy Jr, Robert LaFollete, Clark Gable, Barry Goldwater, Joseph Foss, George McGovern, Jim Jones, and then a ten-year military government led by Alexander Haig. Haig is succeeded by Slade Gorton, who is then finally defeated by the Republican ticket of Russ Feingold and Pat Buchanan.

Here's when their terms in office were in FaT (I may have messed up the dates for some of the later ones):

Henry Wallace (1941-1945)

Robert Taft (1945-1950) [Assassinated by Puerto Rican nationalists]

Thomas Dewey (1950-1953)

Joseph P. Kennedy Jr (1953-1962) [Assassinated by Charles Whitman]

Robert LaFollete (1962) [Dies in a bizzare confrontation with African-American rioters outside of the White House; race relations in FaT's America are nothing short of terrible]

Clark Gable (1962-1965)

Barry Goldwater (1965-1969)

Joseph Foss (1969-1973)

George McGovern (1973-1977)

Jim Jones (1977-1980) [Need I say more? He's the last elected President for a while; Alexander Haig heads a junta in Jones' absense]

Alexander Haig (1980-c. 1993)

Slade Gorton (c. 1993-2001)

Russ Feingold (2000-present)
~~~~~

Given the dynamics of FaT, everything that can go wrong in the world goes wrong, not just in the USA. But the terrible Presidents of the USA are a major part of the timeline...
 

maverick

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How does Strom Thurmond become president?

Why is Jesse Jackson a Republican? He's not!

Well, I thought we were trying to get a nightmare world...:p

Meanwhile, about For all Time, I do have to say for the author that he created a terrible world without apocalyptic nuclear wars or a Soviet-American nuclear war, despite the multi-polarism and the freely use of Nuclear weapons...
 
Here's when their terms in office were in FaT (I may have messed up the dates for some of the later ones):

Henry Wallace (1941-1945)

Robert Taft (1945-1950) [Assassinated by Puerto Rican nationalists]

Thomas Dewey (1950-1953)

Joseph P. Kennedy Jr (1953-1962) [Assassinated by Charles Whitman]

Robert LaFollete (1962) [Dies in a bizzare confrontation with African-American rioters outside of the White House; race relations in FaT's America are nothing short of terrible]

Clark Gable (1962-1965)

Barry Goldwater (1965-1969)

Joseph Foss (1969-1973)

George McGovern (1973-1977)

Jim Jones (1977-1980) [Need I say more? He's the last elected President for a while; Alexander Haig heads a junta in Jones' absense]

Alexander Haig (1980-c. 1993)

Slade Gorton (c. 1993-2001)

Russ Feingold (2000-present)
~~~~~

Given the dynamics of FaT, everything that can go wrong in the world goes wrong, not just in the USA. But the terrible Presidents of the USA are a major part of the timeline...

I didn't know FaT went past the 70's. Where did you see these later decades?
 

maverick

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See the thread "Most Morbid AH"...there are links to what happens in the early 1980s and the epilogue in 2000 in one of the pages...
 
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