Worst possible outcome of a domestic US military exercise

Lusitania

Donor
Pardon? I offered a correction of the statement you made if my reply somehow violates the rule against current politics than so does yours.
I not saying you violated anything I said that for me to respond and discuss this idea of Obama and president and invasion of texas would get us in trouble.
 

nbcman

Donor
An Able Archer type exercise involving only US domestic assets could be misconstrued as a First Strike by the Soviets in the past or Russia / China now.

A foreign power's spy ship / plane comes too close to a training exercise and gets destroyed. Tension ratchets up and war ensues.

A malfunction occurs and an armed plane / missile crashes into a major metropolitan area, oil refinery, or nuclear power plant.

A member of a domestic terror organization is squatting on a live fire range and gets blown up when the range isn't properly cleared (which happens more often than you'd think). In retaliation, said terror organization strikes back.
 
I not saying you violated anything I said that for me to respond and discuss this idea of Obama and president and invasion of texas would get us in trouble.

There is no need to discuss Obama. You do not have to discuss what you think Obama was doing in Texas.

Official U.S. action: The U.S. Armed Forced hosted a Special Forces training exercise in Texas.
Official Texas response: Governor Abbott deployed the Texas State Guard to observe this activity due to his suspicions about Obama (the Lieutenant Governor literally said this).

There is no need to discuss if Abbott was correct or if people need to be suspicious of Obama. There is no need to be political.

This is simply a correction of the idea that Governor Abbott deployed the Texas State Guard in response to fears of a UN invasion. He did not. Although some conspiracy theorists mentioned ISIS and the UN, Abbott did not. You suggested otherwise and made your discussion based off of this fact.

A few other details. First off, the US armed forces can't perform a military exercise without the permission of the State and County officials, so this exercise was reviewed and allowed by the Texas government. Secondly, local officials were supportive of the exercise. Thirdly, the exercise in Texas occurred in Bastrop County, not on the Mexican border. All of which combines to invalidate the idea that the Texas government was expecting a UN invasion.
 

Lusitania

Donor
There is no need to discuss Obama. You do not have to discuss what you think Obama was doing in Texas.

Official U.S. action: The U.S. Armed Forced hosted a Special Forces training exercise in Texas.
Official Texas response: Governor Abbott deployed the Texas State Guard to observe this activity due to his suspicions about Obama (the Lieutenant Governor literally said this).

There is no need to discuss if Abbott was correct or if people need to be suspicious of Obama. There is no need to be political.

This is simply a correction of the idea that Governor Abbott deployed the Texas State Guard in response to fears of a UN invasion. He did not. Although some conspiracy theorists mentioned ISIS and the UN, Abbott did not. You suggested otherwise and made your discussion based off of this fact.

A few other details. First off, the US armed forces can't perform a military exercise without the permission of the State and County officials, so this exercise was reviewed and allowed by the Texas government. Secondly, local officials were supportive of the exercise. Thirdly, the exercise in Texas occurred in Bastrop County, not on the Mexican border. All of which combines to invalidate the idea that the Texas government was expecting a UN invasion.

Well you got me wondering so I re-read a few articles from some mainstream websites and yes it did not mention UN but it mentioned federal invasion on Texas, confiscation of weapons and imposition of martial law. Now this was from the Texas government officials with the governor being the most paranoid.

As you mention local and state official are notified and that would be it. With people just going on with their lives. State Government would quickly dispel such rumors as false and reassure people. Here we have current politics overriding common sense.

This has huge implication (not good) for future.
 
Accidentally launching a full retaliatory strike against the Soviet Union because someone screwed up during a training simulation and made NORAD think a real first-strike was inbound (this almost happened in November 1979).

Unfortunately RTL plausible. There was/is considerable squishiness in both Russian and American early warning systems. The Chinese system is likely in a similar fix. There was a past history event of where the ESA was testing a sounding rocket in northern Europe and both the US and the Russians either did not know, or were not ESA informed, or somehow screwed up in IDing the event. A 1960s launch on warning profile by either superpower and 'Poof' ballgame over. As it was, during that alert, someone on one side, called before things got to the machine stage and asked the other side the rather simple question; "Are you tracking an event like we are?"

Jade Helm was HILARIOUS all across the spectrum, but that is about all I will discuss about it.
 
A massive spill of biological or chemical weapons contaminates the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers.
I emphasized the Ohio River because it is the most densely populated of the tributaries to the Mississippi.

Contamination of the Great lakes would be even worse!
 
Back in the late 1980s my Marine reserve company was riding a charter bus to some national guard training facility for the weekend. The bus driver distributed cassette tapes and literature outlining the impending UN invasion from Canada. Exactly why i never saw warnings of UN attacks from Mexico I don't know. It was always from Canada in the literature I saw.

They're too damn polite. Canada is like that friendly and polite neighbor you always thought was slightly off but didn't know why. At least until the cops found all of those hitch hikers buried in their crawlspace.

Us evil two faced Canadians trying to fool the good Americans to believe we good guys while we secretly house hundreds of thousands of UN terrorists and communists in secret bases just waiting for the US to be distracted. Shucks we been found out.

No wonder there is a new thread each week on how the US should of and could of conquered Canada.

I knew it. I freaking knew it. I knew you baby eating monsters were planning on invading us and imposing your heathen communist ideals like socialized medicine, decent beer, the metric system, or worst of all curling.


Though seriously the worst possible result of domestic war games would be somehow a nuke going off. Though arguably bio weapons getting released would be worse then a single nuke.
 
Now I'm thinking of the old Newport Arsenal along the Wabash River in western Indiana. The prevailing winds would be taking the VX & other agents released across Indianapolis & the rest of the two million inhabitants between there & Cinncinatti/Dayton metro region with another four million plus...
 
They're too damn polite. Canada is like that friendly and polite neighbor you always thought was slightly off but didn't know why. At least until the cops found all of those hitch hikers buried in their crawlspace.
I knew it. I freaking knew it. I knew you baby eating monsters were planning on invading us and imposing your heathen communist ideals like socialized medicine, decent beer, the metric system, or worst of all curling.

Mwaahahahaha! My personal goal is to become the dictator of Hawaii. But I'd settle for Florida. Hell, Florida is half-Canadian already. All those seniors from Quebec? They're just awaiting on the secret signal.
 
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Mwaahahah. My personal goal is become the dictator of Hawaii. But I'd settle for Florida. Hell, Florida is half-Canadian already. All those seniors from Quebec? They're just awaiting on the secret signal.

I live in SW Florida. I'm well aware of your perfidious infiltration of our proud disease infested swamps and drive through combination Liquor/Fireworks/Gun stores.
 
I think my American cousins have already had enough close calls with Broken Arrow incidents. Thank goodness the safeties did their job.
 
I live in SW Florida. I'm well aware of your perfidious infiltration of our proud disease infested swamps and drive through combination Liquor/Fireworks/Gun stores.

I'll know when you Yanks have finally reached an acceptable level of sophistication when those drive through combination Liquor/Fireworks/Gun stores include cannabis and poutine. Hmmmm. Cannabis flavoured poutine. I could franchise that.
 
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nbcman

Donor
I'll know when you Yanks have finally reached an acceptable level of sophistication when those drive through combination Liquor/Fireworks/Gun stores include cannabis and poutine. Hmmmm. Cannabis flavoured poutine. I could franchise that.
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All they need is the Fireworks and cannabis. No need for WMD fries.
 
I'll know when you Yanks have finally reached an acceptable level of sophistication when those drive through combination Liquor/Fireworks/Gun stores include cannabis and poutine. Hmmmm. Cannabis flavoured poutine. I could franchise that.

Ahh yes. Canada is well known for it's heights of technology and culture. Hell I hear you guys are supposed to enter the Bronze age sometime in the next century or so. Maybe then you can master fire and then no longer need to sacrifice your first born to the wolves.
 
A National Guard Special Forces team did a night parachute jump on exercise in mountains of northern New Mexico 45 years ago. The locals thought it was an invasion and were out in force. I knew one of the SF guys. He figured an M16 or M60 with blanks was no match for a 30-30 or .270 in the hands of folks whose families had lived there for 300 years
 

JSchafer

Banned
Naval exercises seem more prone to unexpected interference and accidents than local land exercises. Even if a soldier or two get shot by mistake it’s just two soldiers. Or vice versa if they shoot a civie. But naval ones carry a lot greater risks and potential body count.
 
Mwaahahahaha! My personal goal is to become the dictator of Hawaii. But I'd settle for Florida. Hell, Florida is half-Canadian already. All those seniors from Quebec? They're just awaiting on the secret signal.

Are you sure they will be able to hear or see it, mon camarade...I mean, amigo?

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All they need is the Fireworks and cannabis. No need for WMD fries.

I'd like a #4 'Cartel Combo' with the AK-47 and Don Julio 1942, could you please upgrade that to a 'C-Mag Special' with 2 extended magazines and 600 rounds of Tula please? And a #1 'All-American Three Wise Men Combo' with a fifth of Booker's, fifth of Jack, and fifth of Johnny Walker Blue along with a Colt Trooper Mk III and a Smith & Wesson M&P Rifle model #811308? Also upgrade that to a C-Mag special but hold the Tula and replace with Winchester please? Thanks!
 
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Kaze

Banned
A general gets an idea....

A general with an idea is a terrible thing - he might think of staging a military dictatorship through a coup. The Roman Republic and the Roman Empire died because of generals with ideas. It is how Napoleon came to power - a general with an "idea".
 
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