Worst possible outcome for Germany, post WW2

What is the worst that can happen to Germany following defeat in WW2 (I'm particularly looking at their friends the Russians)? Their borders were already pretty drastically cut, could it be any worse?
 
Well, the Morgenthau-plan meant to reduce Germany to a second rate agricultural state, dismantling any industry capable of supporting warfare, splitting Germany in two and separating the Rhineland from Germany proper.

There where also plans for redrawing the borders in the West, among them the following rather bizarre Dutch plan.
 
As well as the above, post war Germany is broken up into 4-6 smaller states, France gets the Saar, it's industries and big corporations are taken over by firms from the Allied Nations with a lot of it being transferred overseas. I don't mean a Morgenthau reduction to an agrarian economy but rather a reduction to a level that meant any future German State wouldn't have the resources or capability to wage offensive war.

Then of course if the War lasted until summer'45 the first nukes would land on Germany :eek:
 
Somewhere between Morgenthau Plan and "Germany must perish!" solely because Germany must perish wasn't actually physically possible.
 
Morgenthau plus Operation Vegetarian. That should do it.:eek::eek:

Just read up on that and it's no wonder it was never implemented it would be the worse genocide the world had ever seen
Just goes to show how far Britain was willing to go

Ps when I first heard about it I thought it was a tourture plan to make all germans vegetarians after the war :D
 
Just read up on that and it's no wonder it was never implemented it would be the worse genocide the world had ever seen
Just goes to show how far Britain was willing to go

Ps when I first heard about it I thought it was a tourture plan to make all germans vegetarians after the war :D

Then read Calbear`s TL An Anglo-American Nazi War there the operation is implemented after a poison gas attack on Britian by Fhurer Himmler in 1959. Read the TL to make sense of that.
 
If all of Germany ended up being occupied by the SU, that would be pretty bad for them. For everyone actually, but for them especially.

Cold War, a lot more dangerous.

Maybe throw in a rebellion ala Hungary and have an overreaction from the scared old men in the Kremlin.
 
If all of Germany ended up being occupied by the SU, that would be pretty bad for them. For everyone actually, but for them especially.

I was think that myself, given how the Russians removed all the Germans from East Prussia and the lands they gave Poland, I was thinking the Russians removing all or most Germans out into Siberia or Central Asia (or mix of both) like a super sized Operation Lentil, or what happened to the Volga Germans, the land that was Germany (and I guess Austria) gets given to the neighboring nations or is repopulated by Russians at Key coastal areas like Kaliningrad
 
I tend to think the worst possible outcome for Germany almost requires no cold war. It was the cold war that cut short the western partition of Germany to form the Federal Republic and the DDR also profited (such that it was) by its importance as a counterweight to a independent West Germany.

If the WW2 allies remained on the same page regarding what to do with Germany and the rest of central Europe, I think something like the Morgenthau plan would be much more attractive to the west. I could see
"Germany" being partitioned into several small states, it's industry removed, and larger chunks absorbed by adjacent states (France mainly - Poland already got a lot OTL).

Here's a question, though, if the remaining "German" states stayed independent and basically became a group of democratic neutral and inconsequential "Austrias" or "Switzerlands" between Denmark and Italy, would this necessarily be a bad thing for "Germans" living in them 50 years later?
 
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