Worst possible alternate US election

Thurmond's appeal in '48 wasn't so limited, and I'm surprised it took this long for him to be mentioned.

Check out "Fear, Loathing and Gumbo" and then imagine President Agnew not being impeached.

If Larry MacDonald had not died in a plane crash in '83, I can see him beating Bush the Elder in '88. That could have been a disaster.

Dipping into the 19th century, I'm surprised no one mentioned Tilden.

I'm not sure how bad Long really would be. He would have secured victory in WWII. The economy would have collapsed about the time the ink was dry on the peace treaty - his solutions were very short sighted, but in the short term, they would have got results - but it's likely that damage could be repaired eventually. A 20 year recession is horrible, but it doesn't really stack up next to the consequences of losing the War.
 
Tilden is worse than the guy who apologized for the Union winning the ACW, stole the election and reverted to status quo ante bellum sans slavery?
 
Exactly. Actually--Tilden--a Northern Progressive, might have been willing to keep Reconstruction going--or at least tinker with a way of ending it that didn't leave the blacks facing the Southern 'rifle clubs'.
 
But he might have repealed Reconstruction, leaving millions of blacks to be second class citiz ... oh, wait.

And by 1877, did it really matter what the POTUS wanted?

The Radical Reconstructionists had only two states left, and were hanging on by the fingernails even there. Even had the troops stayed longer, those would have been "redeemed" in 1878, or 1880 at latest. It was all over bar the shouting, and all that remained was to recognise the fait accompli.
 
Taft, Vandenberg, or (shudder) Hoover in 1940: all three were isolationists. And I can only imagine what might have happened with a re-tread Hoover. (Aside: he was a good man but his political judgment and convictions were wanting, to say the least. He always seemed to manage to come down on the wrong side, what with supporting isolationism in the late '30s and McCarthyism in the early '50s.)

Carter in '80. 'Nuff said.

Gore in '00. I can't quite fathom what Gore's response would have been to 9/11. (At the same time, Joe Lieberman would likely have been white hot to go after the culprits big time.)

Had he been able to gain the nomination and survive, Wilson in '20. His administration was already a train wreck. And he was no friend of blacks: their situation would have gotten worse as the '20s progressed. Hard to imagine what Wilson's response from the Oval Office would have been over the Tulsa race riot of that era.
 
Gore in '00. I can't quite fathom what Gore's response would have been to 9/11. (At the same time, Joe Lieberman would likely have been white hot to go after the culprits big time.)

Do you seriously doubt he wouldn't go for overthrow the Taliban?
 

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Wallace win in 1948 then we will see a Soviet spy in the cabinet. America will turn into a semi-socialist nation within 4 years and the Soviets will gain foothold in Western Europe and Communism will spread around the world. Greece will turn communist. Turkey will turn communist. Iran will turn communist. Whole Korea will turn communist. Whole Southeast Asia will turn communist. A disaster to the world with 3/4 of the world are living in a communist regimes.

Communism isn't always bad. I seriously doubt that every state you mentioned would become a radical communist dictatorship like the Soviet Union, the US included.
 
Wallace win in 1948

America will turn into a semi-socialist nation within 4 years
Hoo boy...
and the Soviets will gain foothold in Western Europe
Um... where? What country?
Greece will turn communist.
As opposed to turning right-wing fascist. Gee. What a tragedy.

(My grandfather fought with the Partisans.)
Turkey will turn communist.
Um... when? How? 'Cos we sure wouldn't want Turkey to turn into an authoritarian dictatorship that suppresses its populace or something worse like a military junta OH WAIT.
Iran will turn communist.
:mad::mad::mad: Mohammed Mossaddegh was not communist. He hated communism. And he was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED. The CIA overthrew him because the UK and USA were greedy bastards and they completely fucked up Iran in the process by paving the way for the Iranian Revolution.
Whole Korea will turn communist.
Henry A Wallace supported the Korean War.
Whole Southeast Asia will turn communist. A disaster to the world with 3/4 of the world are living in a communist regimes.
There aren't enough ":rolleyes:"s in the world.

Ahem.

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Carter in '80. 'Nuff said.
No, actually. Not enough said. What do you think would have happened if Carter had won?
Gore in '00. I can't quite fathom what Gore's response would have been to 9/11.
I can. War in Afghanistan, no war in Iraq, no declaration of "War on Terror", NO TORTURE. Simple.
 
I can see people from other TLS seeing some OTL examples.

DBWI:
Jefferson wins against Adams. Unlike Adams did IOTL, Jefferson allows slavery in Louisana Territory, which ends up leading to a Civil War in the US.

Hayes vs. Tilden already mentioned

Jackson vs. Anyone (Indian perspective)

Wilson vs. Hughes would end in Wilson's narrow victory, leading to US intervention in WWI, communism actually happening, another world war, and a long quiet world war.

Kennedy vs. Nixon leads to a horrible war in Vietnam that scars US politics forever.

Reagan vs. Carter results in Reagan's victory. This would lead to a 30-year slow ruin of the American economy since Reagan's economic policies don't make sense, unlike Bush's and Cuomo's. Bush still becomes President, but in 88' and is never removed from office since Iran-Contragate happens under Reagan who avoids impeachment. Because of this, the Bush name remains popular until his second son become POTUS and runs America to the ground in 8 ASB years.

Bush vs. Gore mentioned
 
I'm not convinced he wouldn't opt for some sort of "measured" response: let's put it that way.

Right. Gore--the man who convinced Clinton to go with extraordinary rendition--he's such a liberal wimp, he'll just whine politely at the Taliban who have essentially helped kill thousands of Americans, and are now bragging about it. Sure.
 
Thurmond's appeal in '48 wasn't so limited, and I'm surprised it took this long for him to be mentioned.

Thurmond didn't run in every state; he received votes only in 17 states. Maybe if he had tried to run a national campaign?

Ugh.
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Incidentally, what if Horace Greeley had won a majority of the electoral votes, but died before the EVs were tallied? He died in OTL before the electoral college met, and thus received no electoral votes, since you don't vote dead guys in as president - probably the last major party candidate to ever have that happen.
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If Larry MacDonald had beat Bush (and then Dukakis), sure, he would've been a disaster. But why would he have been in a position to beat Bush in '88?
 
Communism isn't always bad. I seriously doubt that every state you mentioned would become a radical communist dictatorship like the Soviet Union, the US included.

Communism always sucks, pure form or not because humans are greedy in nature and doesn't want to be dictated by the groups. People wants freedom. In communism, in order to get the classless society, they should kill those who will oppose to their regime.
 
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