Worst General After 1900

Courtney Hodges should get a special mention just for the Hürtgenwald.
Being generous he spent 5 months throwing troops at the most heavily fortified, worst terrain in North-West Europe. With no clear objective or purpose. (The official reasons have all the air of being justifications made up after the fact).
Precipitously abandoning his headquarters during the Bulge doesn't really look good either, especially as the Germans never got anywhere near it.
(Liaison Officers sent out by Montgomery reported finding classified material and maps left just lying around in the empty HQ)

Ah, but how much of that was Bradley's fault for failing to set out clear objectives for his subordinates and refusing to step in to take charge in a moment of crisis?

I mean, if you were to assess 12th Army Group's whole conduct during that period of time then not only was 1st US Army slogging fruitlessly through the Hurtgen Forest for heavy losses but 3rd US Army was slogging forward against Metz with no real plan and making little progress and taking heavy casualties.

Between them they lost between 80,000 and 100,000 men, made limited (if any) gains, both battles going on far beyond the point that they could have been of any use and neither one strengthening the Allied position or getting them any closer to hastening the end of the war, and Bradley was just content to let them go on and on until their end - good or bad - splitting his Army Group further apart with a region that had been the sight of two major German Offensives - one in WWI and one in WW2 - between the two armies, and to top it off he then refused to take charge of things when the Germans launched their third major offensive through the Ardennes forcing Eisenhower to take away two thirds of his Army Group and transfer command to Monty.

Sure, Hodges certainly should get some blame for things but - for whatever my opinion is worth - I have always considered this period of time a major failing in the Generalship of Omar Bradley.
 
3rd US Army was slogging forward against Metz with no real plan and making little progress and taking heavy casualties.
None of those units involved were chewed up, unlike what happened to those units rotated in, then out of the forest. 120,000 men in, near 30% casualties.

That doesn't mean that the Lorraine campaign wasn't botched: it was, just not near as badly
 
None of those units involved were chewed up, unlike what happened to those units rotated in, then out of the forest. 120,000 men in, near 30% casualties.

That doesn't mean that the Lorraine campaign wasn't botched: it was, just not near as badly

They were different battles with different flaws but both recorded significaly high casualty rates. My point was that both were Bradley's resposibility, ultimately, as he was the Army Group Commander who let them happen and let them go on for so long without any real progress and with no real strategic aim in mind. So how much blame to you attribute to Hodges for the disaster of the Hurtgen Forest and how much rest on Bradley's shoulders?
 
I would totally support Ludendorff and Hindenburg since they come as a pair. One major victory against a wholly disorganized enemy has tended to cover multiple military mistakes, and if you believe Colonel Max Hoffmann Hindenburg deserves little credit for Tannenberg. In addition to the Kaiserschlacht Hindenburg also has to carry a lot of the blame for promulgating the 'stabbed in the back' myth.
In the interests of fairness to these two chuckle-fucks, Kaiserschlacht got cooked up when Ludendorff was in a blind panic, exhausted, and knew his side was now horribly outmatched on raw numbers, and Hindenburg was literally losing his mind when he decided to put Hitler in charge of Germany.

Both still chuckle-fucks, though.
Incompetent but there were far worse.
Clark was a good trainer and capable staff officer, his was just bad in the field.
I'd also like to commend "Air Marshall" Herman Goering, the man who wasted his best on the Battle of Britain and then kept insisting on harebrained schemes to show off the Luftwaffe and ended up achieving very little.
The guy was high for basically the whole war, what do you expect?
 
Technically, he seems to have been an administrator more than a commander, governing the SS as though they were his own personal fief. But it turns out he had command of the Berlin front for a few days/weeks towards the end.
Army Group Vistula was literally commanded by Himmler from January to March of 1945. I am reposting the link here on his leadership of said Army Group here:
 
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Repeat of the New Orleans campaign, had to come in with victory after the sad show from Lake Champlain to influence the slow moving peace talks at Ghent, that had been ongoing since August.
Only the Burning of Washington DC was a success , two defeats listed above, and whatever you want to call the attack into Maine was supposed to do.
Okay, fair enough. Using a final show of force to try and impose better terms on the other side.

Except unlike Navarre, the British general simply had the misfortune of running into a force of determined defenders protecting their country commanded by a bullheaded commander, perfect elements for a successful defense/counterattack.

Navarre's plan was just.... ugh.

EDIT: Okay, found someone else: Ubaldo Soddu, Italian general sent in to manage the Italian invasion of Greece once the initial attack went completely pear-shaped. He instead chose to spend his time in his tent listening to music and doing anything except, you know, being a commanding general.
 
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Courtney Hodges should get a special mention just for the Hürtgenwald.
Being generous he spent 5 months throwing troops at the most heavily fortified, worst terrain in North-West Europe. With no clear objective or purpose. (The official reasons have all the air of being justifications made up after the fact).
Strangely Lawton Collins as the Corps Commander seems to escape blame for this.
 
I'm surprised no one has nominated Douglas Haig. He was the poster boy for the bad generals of WWI: snobbish, egotistical, rose through the ranks fighting tribal forces in the Colonies and playing politics, more concerned with his image than casualty figures, threw away millions of lives in The Somme and Passchendaele. The German assessment of the British soldiers was "lions led by donkeys" and Haig was the supreme donkey.

Does Saddam Hussein count? He was an army general before seizing power and he was supreme commander in the Iran-Iraq War and both Gulf Wars.

I don't think that is a fair assessment of the man

I suggest you read "Mud blood and poppycock" by Gordon Corrigan who re-examines those 'myths'

For example the 'Lions led by Donkeys' quote was a phrase coined by the MP Alan Clark in the 60s - he claimed in his book 'The Donkeys' that it was an overheard comment between Lundendorff and Hoffman in 1916 but after being challenged to provide a source for the quote did 'sheepishly' admit to several of his friends that he had made it up!

And yet it remains in the mainstream
 
I don't think that is a fair assessment of the man

I suggest you read "Mud blood and poppycock" by Gordon Corrigan who re-examines those 'myths'

For example the 'Lions led by Donkeys' quote was a phrase coined by the MP Alan Clark in the 60s - he claimed in his book 'The Donkeys' that it was an overheard comment between Lundendorff and Hoffman in 1916 but after being challenged to provide a source for the quote did 'sheepishly' admit to several of his friends that he had made it up!

And yet it remains in the mainstream
'Mud, Blood and Poppycock' is interesting but a bit bombastic, I personally would recommend 'Forgotten Victory' by Garry Sheffield and 'Tommy: The British Soldier on the Western Front' by Richard Holmes.
 
Most of the picks ITT are for WWI generals, and I think context had to be factored in there. WWI was just a flat-out bad situation for any general. They simply couldn't move - if you asked your men on the Western Front to step out of their front-line trenches for 5 minutes and pick their noses, you'd probably be looking at several hundred casualties from it.

Were there rank incompetents like Cadorna? Absolutely. He would've lost any war you put him in.

Were there some classists who really just saw their men as chits on a board and threw their lives away carelessly? Absolutely.

But I don't know how any general could look good in that environment, no matter how talented they were. Brusilov probably led the most successful offensive in the entire war, and even that was Pyrrhic.

In the case of a commander like Douglas Haig, I don't know how you can call him a butcher when basically every option he had available to him was a poor one.
Well August con Mackensen seems to have done a good job, and haig still continued battles long after they had any use, and pashindal was still a horably managed battle at all levels.
 
'Mud, Blood and Poppycock' is interesting but a bit bombastic, I personally would recommend 'Forgotten Victory' by Garry Sheffield and 'Tommy: The British Soldier on the Western Front' by Richard Holmes.

Not read forgotten Victory

While yes it may be bombastic it does take on each 'Revisionist Myth' head on.
 
Most generals, considerations of geographical constraint, technology, available force and, like Mark Clark or Conrad von Hotzendorff, limited skill sets - good at training and building up an army but not at wielding it need to be taken into account. Townshend, Potoriek and Cadorna however cannot be seen as anything other than totally useless, even with all mitigating factors fully accounted for.
 
Not read forgotten Victory

While yes it may be bombastic it does take on each 'Revisionist Myth' head on.
Oh Mud, Blood and Poppycock a good book. Forgotten Victory though was essentially the first book aimed at the general public that took on the 'bunglers and butchers' mythology. You can imagine the outrage Garry Sheffield faced in the columns of certain newspapers for daring to contradict 'Blackadder Goes Forth'. ;)
 
Oh Mud, Blood and Poppycock a good book. Forgotten Victory though was essentially the first book aimed at the general public that took on the 'bunglers and butchers' mythology. You can imagine the outrage Garry Sheffield faced in the columns of certain newspapers for daring to contradict 'Blackadder Goes Forth'. ;)

I bet he drank their tears like fine wine lol
 
Westmoreland was actually a pretty good General but he was handicapped buy political constraints in an already unwinnable situation
As for worse generals we can't forget Dugout Doug MacArthur, he rolled over and played dead in the Philippines and in North Korea
 
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