This is in the Indian Ocean, between Mozambique and Madagascar, so... probably not.
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The Druze should definitely have religious autonomy, if they don't already.
Does Mount Athos have religious autonomy. IMO they should, if they don't already have it.
There aught to be a bit of Tibet that's just under the control of the Dalai and/or Panchen Lama.
Are there any Bogomils still around in Bosnia? In which case, maybe one of the Bosnian vassals should have religious autonomy.
Maybe there's at least one or more Muslim(-majority) state still in Spain? Granada and/or Cordoba?
The Kalmyks (who are Buddhist) already have autonomy under a tribal arrangement. Those sorts of agreements probably include clauses to allow for religious autonomy as well.
I think they should only be listed if their autonomy is granted primarily, if not exclusively on a religious basis, but they otherwise have the "normal" level of self-governance for that kind of subdivision.
In regards to Cambodia, I am also of the opinion that it is odd that they have religious autonomy, and not just a "vassal kingdom" autonomy, in which the locals are free to follow whatever religion they like. Unless Cambodia is a directly-ruled colony, or something like that?
Adding to this, Mongolia (or part of it at least) could be under the control of the Bogd Khan/Jebtsundamba Khutuktu.
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I know of a map of Mongolian monastic estates during the Qing Dynasty, perhaps we can use that. By that extension, though.... the independent estates in Kham and Tibet will be a real doozy to organize through.
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Hmm, Around the time of the Iberian Union? I think Castile would have already come to union with England by that time.
Just to confirm - are the Allied Kingdoms just monarchies that are considered to have "imperial immediacy". I.e. that they are vassals of the King-Emperor-Caesar-Maharajah-Tianzi-Padishah-Sultan-etc., but not of any specific crown within the worldraj?
will do
they do
working on it
gooooood question
probably unlikely
interesting
agreed
you're right, I might isolate Angkor Wat.
The other alternative is the marriage of Charles II to Katherine of Braganza, which is why I asked, might be something in @Alex Richards existing lore.
Was a reference to the previous idea to have White Raja states in Asia and Africa, did not think White Raja of the Comoros was a real thing.....
In which case, at the very least Portugal should have its own colonies, in some kind of sub-raj system.
And probably Burgundy and even Brandenburg-Prussia have their own small empires.
At any rate, the Spanish colonies were part of the Crown of Castile, whilst Aragon had its own Mediterranean empire going on, so there's no reason why different crowns couldn't have colonies under them.
Going back to this to discuss the trajectory of Christianity some more, particularly the existence of groups like the Amish.
An idea I had was that while most of what we recognize as the Protestant Reformation doesn't happen or is contained within the Church (i.e. Martin Luther remains in the Church and potentially occupies a similar role to OTL's St. Ignatius of Loyola [the founder of the Jesuits], while John Calvin may be more moderate and create a group within the Church occupying a similar niche to OTL Jansenism), there could still be something like the Radical Reformation creating groups that splinter off from the Church. So while most of OTL's magisterial/liturgical Protestantism remains Catholic, there is still a more radical movement that leads to the creation of Protestantism, albeit being much weaker due to lacking the institutional support of the OTL Reformation and being much more radical politically and theologically. By the time of the map they may have mostly been pushed out of Europe, but some colonies in the Americas may still have these groups, like the Amish country already on the map and potentially other locations like Plymouth.
Florida can have the same government as Acadia.
Maybe this timeline’s version of the Thirty Years War can result in a Catholic victory, forcing many Protestants to immigrate outside of Europe.
I will implement this if others agree.
I'm not sure how that's possible if Bohemia was gained via the Palatinate.
Oh, maybe the removal of Protestants from Europe is a more drawn out process then.
Maybe it's more of a case of non-mainstream Protestants fleeing Europe.
Like I said, my thinking is that Protestantism is much weaker ITTL than in actual history, with TTL's Reformation being what we know as the Radical Reformation, while the elements/figures that formed the OTL Magisterial Reformation (Lutheranism, Calvinism, and Anglicanism) stay within the Catholic Church. Perhaps the Church cracks down more on practices like the sale of indulgences, and families like the Borgias and Medicis don't take control of the Papacy, leading to a Church that's more willing to address grievances and hold an earlier Council of Trent equivalent reforming the practices of the Church. Despite this, there are still those who are opposed to the Church (and these feelings are probably tied to opposition against the monarchy), which leads to what we'd recognize as the Radical Reformation, with this producing groups like the Anabaptists. Because it's only these more radical groups that split from the Catholic Church, and they don't have nearly as much institutional support as the OTL Magisterial Reformation, they're pretty easily defeated, although a few groups are able to successfully establish themselves in colonies in the New World and survive to the present.
Basically, what Analytical Engine said, except the "non-mainstream" Protestants mentioned are the only Protestants here, with OTL's mainstream Protestants being somewhat more moderate (from a Catholic perspective at least) and taking up different niches within the Catholic Church.
Of course if we don't want to do that I'm not claiming that this is definitively what the lore should be, but these are just my thoughts. I think a continued united Church would make more sense in the context of a universal empire like this, and especially when regarding the survival of such an empire, as if the Reformation did happen as IOTL then the empire likely would have imploded during TTL's equivalent of the Thirty Years War due to sectarian differences between Catholic and Protestant nobles/vassals.
Rather like otl then, it is said the Pilgrim Fathers went to America not to escape persecution but because THEY were not allowed to persecute those they saw as heretics.