Shadowdragon
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What are your visions about WW3 Not asking "could" it happen, but how WOULD it happen in your alternative history fiction?
The classic is ofcourse with the US&USSR during the original Cold War
I have studied alot of the Cold War, and there maybe sone scenarios i think would be possible.
1:Korean war. The US has clear and overwhelming firepower! But will the US bother risking a war with China simply to nuke North-Korea? Most likely not
2:Cuban missile crisis. A change here, but it's still relatively small, considering both sides want a compromise, and the Soviet Union still have the most to lose in a conflict.
2:Vietnam. In this fiction the Watergate scandals never happens. The reporters never get there hands on the sensitive information. Nixon stayes in power, despite being unpopular. The Paris peace accord is not much of a real peace, and simply fuels MORE violence! Nixons managed to squeeze congressional authorisation to contiunue the war and more bombings. Atleast 500 000 North-Vietnamese civilians get killed in just 12 days.
China hints it might now enter the war. The US nuclear bombers are put on full alert, and naval manuevers are carried out on Chinas coast. Chinese "advisers" start to flow to North-Vietnam. Nixon tries to get a deal with Breznev to go to war against China without Soviet interference. Breznev however refuses to give Nixon ok. He sufferes from severe stress, and is forced to step down. Hes Vise President comes in hes place, but the real power is now being held by the top ranking generals. They try to make a deal to keep China out of the war, and in return stop the bombings. Already a million North-Vietnamese have already died. A confortation finally breaks between Chinese and American soldiers. A full scale bombing campaig is now launched against China, while US bases against Japan are also under attack. Marshall law is carried out in America. Desperate evacuation plans are carried out in Vietnam...
Most of China is destroyed in massive bombing and a nuclear holocaust. Soviet forces stage a special military exersize in Europe. Massive anti-American protests are carried out across the globe. The USSR however in secret is satisfied with the fact, that both China and Japan are finally out of the "big game" wich now exlusively for white people. Most US bases in Asia are destoryed, but the Soviet Union does not come to Chinas aid. Massive Anti-American protests are carried out in Europe. Anarchy speards as American military bases are attacked. The CIA tries to launch counter protests in Soviet occupied countries. The Soviet Union warns the west on fueling tensions and sends thousands of more tanks to Eastern-Europe.
At the end of the day no war actually breaks out between the west and Soviet Union, but several member states now withdraw from Naton, wich literally turns into an Anglo-Saxon organisation. France and Germany found a "European forum" where the Russians are also invited as obersvers. The US and Britain are isloted, and American remains indefinitely in Marshall law. The US economy does not recover, and Europeans attempt to deal with the Soviet Union on there own, abandoning USA.
3:This would be a war caused by the Soviet occupation of Poland during the solidarity movement. Very unlikely, since the Soviets never came there. Assuming they did, the west would have just put them on tighter trade sanctions. Dont really see war over this
4:A war with China 10-years from now. The war starts, when a Chinas ship colides with it's American counterpart in the South-China sea. US navy starts shooting Chinese ships in retaliation. Several thousands of sailors form both sides are eventually killed, and China attacks US carriers.
Basicly it's an all out nuclear war, where eventually Russia also joins in. The war is exlusively caused by US "Neocons" are and a powerfull "Shadow council" that works behind the scenes. There secret bases in deep in Latin-America, where they controll the economies of Agentina and Brazill, so they have no problem with WW3 China is almost totally ahnialated. The US collapses, Russia is destroyed. The "Shadow council" then uses there puppets in Latin-America to form a "world government" there, and sents troops to Asia and America to try to controll there reosources. It's a multicultural utopian run by big coporations. Nation states have been literally WHIPED OUT! Basicly a coporate facist world government mostly government from Latin-America, tough they also have links to India and controll the European Union. Nuclear attacks are launched against countries like Iran who try to fight them off. They controll the world through biolocial warfare, starvation(they delibaretly ruin global crops to sell more biocrops wich they have patents to)They provoke wars, destroy crops, spread bioloical weapons delibrately to test them on civilians...you know, being basic coporace facists, a bit like we have today
ALL those who oppose them are hunted down and destroyed. The World will thank the American people for being stupid enough to let there government run them into a world war caused delibrately by the "Shadow Council"
Ok a little cornie back there, but this is basicly how i would envision it. Anyone else got any ideas
P.S:The other altarnative history timeline i'd be interested in, is what if America had not had the bomb ready against Japan in 1945, but instead the first bomb would have been ready only by 1946. The first Hydrogem bombs were ready only by the mid 1950's so i actually consider this a possible scenario
The classic is ofcourse with the US&USSR during the original Cold War
1:Korean war. The US has clear and overwhelming firepower! But will the US bother risking a war with China simply to nuke North-Korea? Most likely not
2:Cuban missile crisis. A change here, but it's still relatively small, considering both sides want a compromise, and the Soviet Union still have the most to lose in a conflict.
2:Vietnam. In this fiction the Watergate scandals never happens. The reporters never get there hands on the sensitive information. Nixon stayes in power, despite being unpopular. The Paris peace accord is not much of a real peace, and simply fuels MORE violence! Nixons managed to squeeze congressional authorisation to contiunue the war and more bombings. Atleast 500 000 North-Vietnamese civilians get killed in just 12 days.
China hints it might now enter the war. The US nuclear bombers are put on full alert, and naval manuevers are carried out on Chinas coast. Chinese "advisers" start to flow to North-Vietnam. Nixon tries to get a deal with Breznev to go to war against China without Soviet interference. Breznev however refuses to give Nixon ok. He sufferes from severe stress, and is forced to step down. Hes Vise President comes in hes place, but the real power is now being held by the top ranking generals. They try to make a deal to keep China out of the war, and in return stop the bombings. Already a million North-Vietnamese have already died. A confortation finally breaks between Chinese and American soldiers. A full scale bombing campaig is now launched against China, while US bases against Japan are also under attack. Marshall law is carried out in America. Desperate evacuation plans are carried out in Vietnam...
Most of China is destroyed in massive bombing and a nuclear holocaust. Soviet forces stage a special military exersize in Europe. Massive anti-American protests are carried out across the globe. The USSR however in secret is satisfied with the fact, that both China and Japan are finally out of the "big game" wich now exlusively for white people. Most US bases in Asia are destoryed, but the Soviet Union does not come to Chinas aid. Massive Anti-American protests are carried out in Europe. Anarchy speards as American military bases are attacked. The CIA tries to launch counter protests in Soviet occupied countries. The Soviet Union warns the west on fueling tensions and sends thousands of more tanks to Eastern-Europe.
At the end of the day no war actually breaks out between the west and Soviet Union, but several member states now withdraw from Naton, wich literally turns into an Anglo-Saxon organisation. France and Germany found a "European forum" where the Russians are also invited as obersvers. The US and Britain are isloted, and American remains indefinitely in Marshall law. The US economy does not recover, and Europeans attempt to deal with the Soviet Union on there own, abandoning USA.
3:This would be a war caused by the Soviet occupation of Poland during the solidarity movement. Very unlikely, since the Soviets never came there. Assuming they did, the west would have just put them on tighter trade sanctions. Dont really see war over this
4:A war with China 10-years from now. The war starts, when a Chinas ship colides with it's American counterpart in the South-China sea. US navy starts shooting Chinese ships in retaliation. Several thousands of sailors form both sides are eventually killed, and China attacks US carriers.
Basicly it's an all out nuclear war, where eventually Russia also joins in. The war is exlusively caused by US "Neocons" are and a powerfull "Shadow council" that works behind the scenes. There secret bases in deep in Latin-America, where they controll the economies of Agentina and Brazill, so they have no problem with WW3 China is almost totally ahnialated. The US collapses, Russia is destroyed. The "Shadow council" then uses there puppets in Latin-America to form a "world government" there, and sents troops to Asia and America to try to controll there reosources. It's a multicultural utopian run by big coporations. Nation states have been literally WHIPED OUT! Basicly a coporate facist world government mostly government from Latin-America, tough they also have links to India and controll the European Union. Nuclear attacks are launched against countries like Iran who try to fight them off. They controll the world through biolocial warfare, starvation(they delibaretly ruin global crops to sell more biocrops wich they have patents to)They provoke wars, destroy crops, spread bioloical weapons delibrately to test them on civilians...you know, being basic coporace facists, a bit like we have today
Ok a little cornie back there, but this is basicly how i would envision it. Anyone else got any ideas
P.S:The other altarnative history timeline i'd be interested in, is what if America had not had the bomb ready against Japan in 1945, but instead the first bomb would have been ready only by 1946. The first Hydrogem bombs were ready only by the mid 1950's so i actually consider this a possible scenario
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