Working Together for Britain: A different world

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    • jyxz7

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    What is this?
    This thread follows an POD where the SDP/Liberal Alliance is never formed as well as Thatcher doesn't see the boost from the fact that there is no Falklands war.

    Is this just on the UK?
    For now: yes. However I'm pretty sure it won't stay that way for a long amount of time, and yes I know that this POD would not affect other nations that much but this is just more of a timeline with a changing world in the 80's.

    How will it be produced?
    I will try and ensure all posts aren't wall of text as I prefer graphical content. There will most likely be a mix between infoboxes, wikipages and just more general graphics.​
     
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    • BBC Election Night 1984: Exit poll Forcast
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    • jyxz7

    Peter Snow: And Here it goes, here is our forecast.

    Peter Snow: Here is the expected results, the SDP are at two-hundred and sixty, that's a massive gain of the same amount. Labour are expected to see a somewhat poor night with a total of two-hundred and thirty one seats in the commons; this is a decrease of thirty seats from our notional results. The Conservatives have seen probably their worst night since nineteen o' six where Arthur Balfour led them into a landslide defeat. If this forecast is true for tonight then the Conservatives will have their worst ever result with a total of one-hundred and twenty three, this is astonishing as it will be a net decrease of two-hundred and thirty six seats. The Liberals are also seeing a major problem with the fact that its predicted that they will only have six seats, gone are the glory days of Gladstone and its seems according to this poll they are now on the point of extinction. But the big take away from tonight is that this earthquake is not bringing any landslides to any one party and that this House of Commons will be with no majority and as such this poll results will most likely lead to a lot of negotiations in the coming weeks as either Jenkins or Foot or even Thatcher try to gain a parliamentary majority.​

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    • BBC Election Night 1984: Early morning totals
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    • jyxz7

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    The morning after the 1984 election was a rather strange one. People knew that last night saw an earthquake and a gargantuan change in British politics but had no idea what would happen next as no party would be able to hold a majority. The Campaign was seen as rather bitter as the Conservatives were trying to not completely collapse, Labour was portraying the SDP as both Dangerous but also more of the same and the SDP had failed to get on the good side of most of parliament (including their natural allies the Liberals). This was the first election since February 1974 where no party was going to win a majority of seats, however unlike the negotiations that took place after that election it would seem that Westminster would be under gridlock for the period of this parliament.

    Jenkins and the SDP were over the moon in how this turned out. Defeating many of their rivals in the Labour Party. Crushing the Tories out of Wales, Scotland, and many cities. Jenkins would go on to announce that they would go into a coalition with either party on the condition that they lead the government along with many of their policies being a priority. Although secretly, Jenkins would want a deal with Labour he knew that he would have to deal with a large sect of the new party who could not dream of cozening up to the party they flocked from a few years ago.

    It would seem that the Conservatives would be locked out of both Scotland and Wales and would now be on the look out for a new leader after Thatcher announced during the BBC coverage that she would resign as leader of the Party once a new Prime Minister and Government had been formed. The Labour Party was surprised in how successful the party was in the night with a notional loss of around 20 seats (far less than was expected within the campaign). During the night Foot was state that the Labour Party would not go into any coalition but may expend support for certain laws with the SDP. Liberal leader David Steel was mortified with the complete destruction of his party, and would go on to say that he thoroughly regrets not signing into the SDP pact in 1981. Steel would go on to announce that he would also resign as leader and that he hopes the next leader will be able to revive the party in the Commons.​
     
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    • List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (1984 to 2019)
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    • jyxz7

    Hi, so I know it just been over a month since I last posted on this thread, I do apologise as I have had school picking up and I somewhat lost a bit of interest in this TL, but I'm going to be moving away from the 1984 election and Here is the list of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom from 1984 onwards.

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    Here is the List with elections:​
    1984-1990: Roy Jenkins (Social Democratic)
    1984: (Social Democratic) Unity government w/ Michael Foot (Labour), Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
    1985: (Social Democratic) Majority def. Michael Foot (Labour), Geoffrey Howe (Conservative)
    1990-1994: John Smith (Labour)†
    1990: (Labour) C&S deal w/ Roy Jenkins (Social Democratic) def. Anthony Barber (Conservative)
    1994-1994: Gordon Brown (Labour)
    1994-2003: Kenneth Clarke (Conservative)
    1994: (Conservative) Minority def. Gordon Brown (Labour), Keith Bradley (Social Democratic)
    1996: (Conservative) Majority def. Tony Blair (Social Democratic), Robin Cook (Labour)
    2000: (Conservative) C&S deal w/ Tony Blair (Social Democratic) def. Peter Hain (Labour)
    2003-2005: Oliver Letwin (Conservative)
    2005-2014: Charles Kennedy (Social Democratic)
    2005: (Social Democratic) Minority def. Oliver Letwin (Conservative), Jon Trickett (Labour)
    2009: (Social Democratic) Unity government w/ Hilary Benn (Labour), David Willetts (Conservative) def. John McDonnell (Democratic Left), Adrian Ramsay (Green), Tim Yeo (National)
    2013: (Social Democratic) coalition w/ Adrian Ramsay (Green) def. Hilary Benn (Labour), Tim Yeo (Conservative), John McDonnell (Democratic Left), Theresa May (Moderate)
    2014-2017: Richard Grayson (Social Democratic)
    2017-????: Justine Greening (Moderate)
    2017: (Moderate) coalition w/ Mark Harper (Conservative) def. Andy Burnham (Labour), Richard Grayson (Social Democratic), Jeremy Corbyn (Democratic Left), Adrian Ramsay (Green)
     
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    • Analytical Engine

    So, Democratic Left is like reverse-SDP, where the hard left of Labour decided to form their own party, with Nationalisation and Democratic Socialism?

    What's up with the Moderate and National parties?
     

    jyxz7

    Analytical Engine said:
    So, Democratic Left is like reverse-SDP, where the hard left of Labour decided to form their own party, with Nationalisation and Democratic Socialism?

    What's up with the Moderate and National parties?
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    Before the 2009 general election the major parties agreed to a unity government to deal with the second great depression. However, certain groups within the parties were not wanting to work with each other and that's why parts of the Labour left left to fight as the Democratic Left (wanting a return to the post war consensus to deal with the depression). The Right of the Conservatives left after seeing the unity government as too left wing for there liking. However, as the unity government's term progresses the Nationals effectively lead a coup against the party and won. This meant that the more centrist Tories saw the party as effectively dead for one nation conservatism and left to form their own party.
     
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