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What the Russian government realize that military they are not ready for war and stayed neutral in ww1?
no joke I feel like there’s atleast a 15% chance austria somehow loses to serbia by itself
serbia survived while being cut off from the rest of the entente for quite awhile (only collapsing after Bulgaria joined the cp)
no joke I feel like there’s atleast a 15% chance austria somehow loses to serbia by itself
serbia survived while being cut off from the rest of the entente for quite awhile (only collapsing after Bulgaria joined the cp)
In OTL A-H was still deal with Russians too. And since 1915 there was too Italy against the empire. ITTL Germany can freely provide support to A-H.
Austria has not had a war in 2 or 3 generations with the army having degenerated into a dump for second and third sons of aristocrats to play officer while Serbia had a few Balkans wars as warm up and got recently equipped with most modern French weaponry, paid for by French loans.no joke I feel like there’s atleast a 15% chance austria somehow loses to serbia by itself
serbia survived while being cut off from the rest of the entente for quite awhile (only collapsing after Bulgaria joined the cp)
also consider that austria probably isn’t going for total mobilization in this scenario, so you won’t see the same vast numbers that are in otl austria.
Assuming hotzendorf is still chief of staff, it’s going to be a nightmare for a-h even when they eventually win
And yet in OTL they lasted through to 1918 after sustaining millions of casualties. Even with Potiorek and Konrad at the helm, they'd handily win a war against Serbia alone.OTL Austria performed horribly in WWI.
There always the scenario in which kaiser gives no blank check to AH and Russia threatens them and they back down from a full scale invasion of Serbia
There always the scenario in which kaiser gives no blank check to AH and Russia threatens them and they back down from a full scale invasion of Serbia
That almost happened, didn't it? Even with the blank check? After the Serbs accepted most of the ultimatum letter, the Kaiser was happy to let it go, but IIRC the German government told him they couldn't possibly stop the wheels that were already in motion.
The best I can come up with for a 1914 or later PoD for WWI with Russia neutral is Russia falling into a revolution sometime between 1914 and 1924, and the Germans deciding they won’t let their chance for a one front land war against France pass them by again.
The problem is, although David T can quote Soviet theorists on how Russia may have been sliding into a revolutionary situation in 1914, it is pretty much taken as canonical here that no defeat in war = no revolution in Russia.
OTL's serbian front wasn't the Austrian plan. War Plan B called for three armies, rather than two, to be sent south. Additionally the delay caused by having to switch from War Plan B to War Plan R wouldn't have been a factor. So against a quicker invasion and the truly overwhelming force envisioned in the pre-war planning, Serbia probably doesn't perform as well as iOTL.no joke I feel like there’s atleast a 15% chance austria somehow loses to serbia by itself
serbia survived while being cut off from the rest of the entente for quite awhile (only collapsing after Bulgaria joined the cp)
Hotzendorf can handle a war against just Serbia, it's a very far cry from the OTL scenario of Germany pulling the rug out from under him, followed by Potiorek pulling the floor out from under him, followed by the nightmare of trying to coordinate a four front war while also navigating the hellscape that was Austro-German relations during WWI.Assuming hotzendorf is still chief of staff, it’s going to be a nightmare for a-h even when they eventually win