With a POD in 1200, can Switzerland still exist?

The Swiss Confederacy didn't begin until 1291, so if I have a POD in 1200, can I still have Switzerland?

I was hoping to have Switzerland as a part of the HRE until a major split in the 1500s. Can I have Switzerland, or is it ASB for Switzerland to come into being with a POD of 1200?
 
It depends exactly what the PoD is, and how it would affect the Confederation. There's no reason it couldn't exist with the right PoD, but there might not be a reason it should either.

With the right PoD, it could happen.
 
depends on deployment of butterfly nets and adherence to the chaos theory

I'd say this is the biggest barrier. My POD for "Sweet Lands of Liberty" was 1170 and centered around a Waldensian Reformation and the butterflies that came with it. A couple cantons that mostly suported the Pope later and not the Empire, or something like that (it's been a few years) did end up not part of the ATL Switzerland... the only thing is Savoy *is* part of it, so it's really Savoy. However, the neutrality and the fact the mountainous area has a lot of areas that aren't part of the Catholic church - just like they were home to some of the Reformers OTL - is the same, and it wouldn't take much for it to have been called Switzerland in the ATL. Just have the Swiss Confederation founders choose not to ally with Savoy for whatever reason. (Savoy is important becasue the POD involves the duke's child recovering after Waldo prays for her, rather than the Catholic he sent for OTl; a "right place at the right time" thing.)

So, it would possible be a little different, perhaps slightly different cantons, but it coudl exist.
 
In my Chaos TL, I have Switzerland (even a Greater Switzerland) despite of a POD in 1200. Then again, since we're talking about Genghis Khan's death, the butterflies don't even reach the HRE until 1240, and Rudolf of Habsburg was already born then. His successor Albrecht was born in 1255, and it may take some time for the butterflies to spread from Silesia to Switzerland... but so or so, the structures would stay the same: Switzerland had free peasants who also had experience in hunting/fighting and liked their freedom. After all, in their famous oath of 1291 they confirmed their "old freedoms". This wouldn't change easily.
 
The Swiss Confederacy didn't begin until 1291, so if I have a POD in 1200, can I still have Switzerland?

I was hoping to have Switzerland as a part of the HRE until a major split in the 1500s. Can I have Switzerland, or is it ASB for Switzerland to come into being with a POD of 1200?

As others have mentioned, it depends on what the POD is. If you have a Sicily-sized asteroid impact central Europe, no, you can't.

Please also note that the 1291 document is the first extant document we have. But it does mention that it just renews the "ancient form of the league", which had already been "confirmed by an oath".
 
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