WIP Map Thread

Another thing I'm working on. Inspired, as mentioned, by this.
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Here's a snippet of a map I've been working on/tinkering with for a while now. The map shows a western based "Holy Roman Empire" around the late 10th century. The first thing I tried to do was to create something along the lines of a Stemduchy, representing the different people's of the Empire. I also wanted to show the territories that where held by the important families of the region. Such as the Raimondines for example; who are the princes of Gothia, but also counts of Toulouse, Albi and Quercy and margraves of Septimania.
 
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Map of what if the Spanish Empire survived c 1914. Currently adding back in the administrative divisions after I took them out, but so far the new world is complete.
 
How does this look? Just need to add flags of the eight colored nations and a title. (Just need to come up with a good East Africa flag.)
Why have the Congos united? It's an annoyingly common but completely nonsensical trope.

Ogaden exists independent from Somalia and Ethiopia?

I also doubt that would be called Nigeria too. Some Hausa related name maybe.
 
Why have the Congos united? It's an annoyingly common but completely nonsensical trope.
More unrealistic things have happened OTL. You should reevaluate your definition of "realistic".
Ogaden exists independent from Somalia and Ethiopia?
Yes
I also doubt that would be called Nigeria too. Some Hausa related name maybe.
If you're sticking together two countries named after the same river, the name's obvious.
I don't understand East Africa.
It got reorganised along ethnic lines.
I think you should definitely balkanize Eritrea, Zambia,
Already have.
Central Africa, and Mozambique.
I balkanise who I want to balkanise. Not all secession movements have to succeed by 2050.
 
More unrealistic things have happened OTL. You should reevaluate your definition of "realistic".
Well, why did the Republic of the Congo and Democratic Republic of the Congo unify then? I don't think the problem is necessarily a united Congo in and of itself, but that it's presented sans context. In general I think your map 1. underestimates the durability of a state, and 2. falls into the "everybody does Wilsonian national self-determination for no good reason" trope you tend to see a lot in FH.
 
Well, why did the Republic of the Congo and Democratic Republic of the Congo unify then? I don't think the problem is necessarily a united Congo in and of itself, but that it's presented sans context. In general I think your map 1. underestimates the durability of a state, and 2. falls into the "everybody does Wilsonian national self-determination for no good reason" trope you tend to see a lot in FH.
There wasn't a real reason to unify the two Congos beside "why not", but now I've made some: shared languages and cultures across the border (Kikongo, Lingala); rapid industrial growth in the DRC; tearing down of arbitrary colonial borders.
And regarding your points: I've got them explained. A wave of secession tore across the world in the 2020s, with various movements bubbling before reaching a critical mass where govermnets were forced to concede. In Africa in the 2030s onward, the principle of "ethno-nationalism" was dominant, stating that borders should be drawn along ethnic lines. As of 2050, the "African Revolution" is well underway, but far from finished.
 

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More unrealistic things have happened OTL. You should reevaluate your definition of "realistic".

Yes

If you're sticking together two countries named after the same river, the name's obvious.

It got reorganised along ethnic lines.

Already have.

I balkanise who I want to balkanise. Not all secession movements have to succeed by 2050.
Are ylou going out of your way to be offensive?

If so you are being remarkably successful.

I would strongly recommend that you take this scuccess and place it on your mantle. Further success in this area will have negative feedback.
 
Are ylou going out of your way to be offensive?

If so you are being remarkably successful.

I would strongly recommend that you take this scuccess and place it on your mantle. Further success in this area will have negative feedback.
I'm not trying to offent. I apologise if anyone takes it that way.
 
Alright, I've been playing around with a map in my free time, the first I have ever felt comfortable sharing on this forum. It is unfinished, and I would like to ask for some help on a few points.

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I have adapted this from the 1885 map helpfully provided in the original post of the current WorldA thread.

The basic premise is as follows: with a point of divergence at some point in the 1850s, a global conflict breaks out in the 1860s when several geopolitical flashpoints - the sectional crisis in the United States, territorial and maritime disputes between the United States and the United Kingdom (eventually leading to Franco-British support for the South once they secede from the Union), Austro-Prussian tensions, Austro-Italian tensions, Franco-Prussian tensions, and Russo-Turkish tensions - all boiling over at around the same time, leading to two ad hoc coalitions supporting one another.

Column A
  • United States of America
  • Kingdom of Italy
  • Kingdom of Prussia and allied German states
  • Russian Empire
Column B
  • Confederate States of America
  • Austrian Empire
  • United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
  • French Empire
  • Mexican Empire (French puppet)
  • Ottoman Empire
The war ends in victory for Column A. The Austrian and Ottoman empires collapse entirely, their territory largely partitioned between the victors. Seized by a wave of German nationalist sentiment, Berlin absorbs much of Cisleithania (pretty much what we would consider Austria proper today, as well as the Czech lands). Italy annexes not only Venetia, but also South Tyrol, Istria, and other bits of the Dalmatia coast that had previously belonged to Austria, while Russia takes Galicia, Lodomeria, and Bukovina. Russia's biggest awards lie to the south, though: they take control not only of Constantinople, but the entire Turkish straits region, as well as an area of Eastern Anatolia roughly corresponding to the borders of Wilsonian Armenia. They also support Bulgaria's claims to full San Stefano borders, in addition to other parts of Thrace. Going back to Italy, they are also granted Tunisia, Tripolitania, and Malta, and are never compelled to cede any territory to France in the west.

France and Britain are punished much less harshly. In addition to Alsace-Lorraine, they also give up their Indochinese territories to Germany, and lose Corsica to Italy and Saint Pierre and Miquelon to the United States. Washington also wins Canada in the settlement, as well as the British colonies in Bermuda and the Bahamas. Needless to say, the Confederacy is crushed, and America also takes some more of Northern Mexico.

The map depicts the status quo as of ten or fifteen years after the war ended. You will note that the United States has taken some other territory here or there by war or transaction.

Now, I fully admit some of the borders from other maps, particularly...
With my sources cited, here are my big questions...
  • What might the borders of the various Central and Southeastern European states look like after the war? Hungary gains independence from Austria, but can it expect to lose more territory to Germany, Russia, Italy, Romania, or anyone else? What might Romania's borders look like? Serbia? Croatia? Albania? And especially Greece, given that I am not entirely sure whether they would enter the war or not. If they did, it would likely be as a British ally, no? If they stay neutral, might the victors award them with some more territory, such as Smyrna and its environs at the expense of Turkey or Cyprus at the expense of Britain?
  • Speaking of which, who are some other potential major participants in this war? Might Spain somehow become embroiled in the conflict? What about Persia? I could plausibly see them fighting either Russia or the Ottoman Empire, but again, would they participate at all, and how would they be rewarded or punished territorially depending on their side?
  • The Middle East is a big area of concern for me. My idea is that the Ottoman Empire loses de facto or de jure control of any land outside of core Turkish territory, but what does that look like in practice? Would we see independent Arab or Kurdish states? Would more of the Middle East be divided into European colonies or protectorates in a manner similar to the aftermath of the First World War in our timeline? If so, who gains? Might Britain actually make some inroads in the territory of its former ally? I had thought about a Jewish state being carved out of the Levant, but this was before Zionism really took off, right? Would that be plausible?
  • How might the aftermath of this war impact colonization efforts in Sub-Saharan Africa and elsewhere?
  • As it stands, does the United States gain too much territory at the expense of the British Empire in the Atlantic than might plausibly be expected? Could they even get away with taking more from Britain and France in the Caribbean? Or is it just right?
  • As long as Russia is technically defeating Britain in a conflict, might they take the opportunity to encroach upon London's sphere of influence in Central Asia? What might that look like?
 
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Working on a scenario that starts to diverge around WWI: Mussolini stays more ideologically committed to socialism and ends up leading a left-wing revolution in Italy; meanwhile, Charles Evans Hughes is elected President of the US in 1916. This map's set in 1952, about a decade after TTL's complicated analogue to the Second World War (Germany & hangers-on, including Poland, vs Russia and generally the rest of Europe, at the same time as Britain & Japan vs China, Russia, the US, and eventually France and the Netherlands).

I'm not sure I'm satisfied with Central/Eastern Europe, although the general idea's there. India's the biggest unknown for me at this point, although I'm sure there'll be plenty of things I'll end up changing as I flesh this world out more.
 
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