Wine in a CP Victory World

On the subject of the USA. I wonder how US wine development would have fared without that stupid period of prohibition.

As good as the beer and spirits industries would have fared, which would have been much better. The effects of Prohibition were severe.

A CP victory could have also had a potential effect on the Belgian beer industry if Germany occupied Belgium like they did in TL-191. If Belgium is annexed, expect Reinheitsgebot to be applied in the country just as it was in the rest of the German Empire. It would actually lead to the extinction of Belgian brewing as we know it. It had already led to the extinction of many brewing traditions in Germany because Bavaria insisted Reinheitsgebot be implemented throughout the empire as a precondition of unification.
 
another thought I had given this goes back to CP times - is what Wine did the Kaiser drink of choice ?
 
These wines will probably more prominent.


Dalmatia - Plavac, Pošip, Vugava, Prošek, Dingač

Croatia - Moslavac, Škrlet

Slavonia - Silvanac, Traminac, Frankovka

Istria - Muškat, Trojšćina, Vrbnička Žlahtina

Hungary/Slovakia - Tokaj
Sorry, In rereading I just saw this: and had a question. I dunno if Marko knows or someone else, but I'm guessing many of the grapes listed here are know by other names (I assume Muškat is a Muscat, and Silvanac is a Sylvaner) and was just wondering what they are.

As good as the beer and spirits industries would have fared, which would have been much better. The effects of Prohibition were severe.

A CP victory could have also had a potential effect on the Belgian beer industry if Germany occupied Belgium like they did in TL-191. If Belgium is annexed, expect Reinheitsgebot to be applied in the country just as it was in the rest of the German Empire. It would actually lead to the extinction of Belgian brewing as we know it. It had already led to the extinction of many brewing traditions in Germany because Bavaria insisted Reinheitsgebot be implemented throughout the empire as a precondition of unification.
Another fun fact (Bavaria's unification demands) I never would have guess exists.
 
As good as the beer and spirits industries would have fared, which would have been much better. The effects of Prohibition were severe.

A CP victory could have also had a potential effect on the Belgian beer industry if Germany occupied Belgium like they did in TL-191. If Belgium is annexed, expect Reinheitsgebot to be applied in the country just as it was in the rest of the German Empire. It would actually lead to the extinction of Belgian brewing as we know it. It had already led to the extinction of many brewing traditions in Germany because Bavaria insisted Reinheitsgebot be implemented throughout the empire as a precondition of unification.

Yikes that would kill off witbier and kriek. The barbarians:(
 
I knew the CP were a bad lot but this is going too far:D

Wasser Hopfen und Malz - Gott erhalts!

no need for anything to add...

About the wines: Wine tradition goes back much further than the Great war, so I don't think you would butterfly away all (most/many/any) existing wines.

IIRC even the Habsburgs did like French wines...

Ou might see "fancies" rise and fall... A certain celebrity drinks "this and that" then "this and that" might see increased sales... but overall European wine consumption might not change too much.

BTW "Grüner Veltliner" is not the best wine - its an average run of the mill wine - personally I prefer other wines from Austria (Grauer Burgunder, Welschriesling for white, Merlot for Red).
 
Speaking of alcohol and what-ifs:
suppose that Czarist Russia would have kept on selling vodka during the war? Alcohol taxation was, believe or not, one of their most important source of revenue pre-war, and while wine and beer were still allowed to be sold, the tax loss was still substantial during the war. If Russia keeps drinking, can they also keep fighting longer than OTL? :p
 
Problem Vodka is made of potatoes and if your food is scarce you should eat it and not make it liquid. E10 is a modern equivalent where food is used for something else in times of food shortages...
 
Problem Vodka is made of potatoes and if your food is scarce you should eat it and not make it liquid. E10 is a modern equivalent where food is used for something else in times of food shortages...

The food shortages and following unrest in Russian cities had more to do with the collapse of their railroad-based supply network and food distribution system than lack of food per se, though.
 
I rather think it has to do with so many people fighting too ;)

I don't have a direct link to stats available right now, but harvests didin't decline noticeably until the February Revolution and following turmoil in the countryside.

It all comes down to inflation rates, really - a government with more tax income would be less hard-pressed for pressing so much rubles and ruining their economy by rampart inflation along the way.
 

Anderman

Donor
But a good Kriek or Frambozen beer is delicious and the occasional Chimay or other trappist beed is a delight to. These would be gone if the Reinheitsgebot law applied to Belgium

There is no problem here simply invent another designation aka other then Bier/beer.
No Bier no Reinheitsgebot ;)
 
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