Seems realistic aye. I imagine wills being white duty driven, and very much a family man. Whilst Fred is the party boyI had the Lizzie in my own version of this timeline live till 1892 based on the ages of her predecessors when they died.
Seems realistic aye. I imagine wills being white duty driven, and very much a family man. Whilst Fred is the party boyI had the Lizzie in my own version of this timeline live till 1892 based on the ages of her predecessors when they died.
That’s pretty good, I was thinking 1838 for Liz and Henry’s marriageSo as an idea - children born ...
1842 - William (m. c. 1862)
1843 - Georgiana (m. 1874)
1855 - Frederick* (m. 1882)
This would admittedly put the marriage of Elizabeth and Henry of Gloucester and Edinburgh in the 1839 to 1841 window that I think was suggested earlier.
*- Victoria and Albert had several kids really close together, then there are jumps to every other year, then every four years. Her eldest was 18 when her youngest, Beatrice, was born so I thought something roughly similar might happen here ...
1839 seems decent, and this is true perhaps after some time meeting both the Dutch prince and Henry- who she’d have grown up with- she decides for Henry, the dashing military man.She would have been seventeen at the time, I'd suggest 1839 at the earliest - perhaps May (Her eighteenth birthday in December 38) and then she's comfortably in her majority and outside any control that the Regent (Queen Adelaide, the Queen Mother) might exert.
We know that William wanted a Dutch match for Victoria and would have wanted the same for Lizzie. Maybe her decision to disregard her father's wishes causes a little tension, so she chooses to wait until her majority - and swiftly marries Henry.
I think sonyes, his brother Fred would be duke of York and Albany.Sounds good.
With Prince George getting Duke of Clarence and St Andrews?
I think sonyes, his brother Fred would be duke of York and Albany.
I imagine all three boys would be serving time in the military of some shape. As regards Henry duke of Gloucester and Edinburgh, would he continue active service in the army once married, or simply hold ceremonial rank?
Alright interesting, I can see Henry pushing for active duty if he really feels the need thoCeremonial - and given that William IV was a Navy man, perhaps at least one of them (Frederick?) could be pushed into the Navy?
Victoria vetoed Edward VII having an active military career - but allowed Alfred to join the Navy and Arthur to join the Army so imagine Lizzie would take the same approach.
Protect the heir at all costs essentially. In turn, Edward VII had a different approach and permitted both Albert Victor and the future George V to join the Navy. But by that point, Maud, Victoria and Louise were available as heirs.
Is Liz living till about 1890 realistic?
I like it. For this golden age, we talking industrial revolution, empire expanded and social developments?They admittedly allowed Phillip to continue naval duties for several years in the Mediterranean - if we're going with the Jersey monarchy then I could see Lizzie tasking Henry with responsibility for preparing troops for the invasion (alongside the Duke of Cambridge) and leading the charge to repel the invaders at the Battle of Southampton and the naval flotilla in the Battle of the Solent.
Of course, Lizzie would need her own version of Glorianas speech, "I know I have the body of a weak, feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too ..." for the aftermath, proclaiming the new Golden Age begun.
This is very true. I do think she'd have ab okay relationship with her half siblingsIt is by no means impossible - after all she would only be seventy or so - especially if she takes more after her Hanoverian Ancestors (as Queen Victoria appears to), since Queen Charlotte (Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz lived to be 74 and her daughters were quite long-lived, as a rule). William IVs Fitzclarence daughters mostly lived to see fifty (only Sophia, Baroness De L'Isle and Dudley died before her 45th birthday), though I don't believe any of them lived to see seventy (the one who came closest, Lady Mary Fox, only lived to be 64).
I'm glad the Idea of the Jersey monarchy is still happening![]()
DefinitelyI'd imagine that in this timelines ITV drama, Elizabeth, the Battles of Southampton and the Solent and the announcement of the Jersey monarchy would be the finale of the first season.
The thought of this last stand is so intoxicating. Would the French under the bourbons still stupor Francis? Say if the July revolution either never happened due to Louis xix ascending in 1824 due to his old man being dead, or it just failed.I'm glad the Idea of the Jersey monarchy is still happening![]()
Oh ahem would Francis take jersey have Solent?I'd imagine that in this timelines ITV drama, Elizabeth, the Battles of Southampton and the Solent and the announcement of the Jersey monarchy would be the finale of the first season.
The thought of this last stand is so intoxicating. Would the French under the bourbons still stupor Francis? Say if the July revolution either never happened due to Louis xix ascending in 1824 due to his old man being dead, or it just failed.
Oh ahem would Francis take jersey have Solent?