William IV of Britain's daughter Elizabeth survives.

Or his marriage to Augusta Murray is recognised by his father and his children Frederick and Augusta declared legitimate. They had no children IRL - but what if Frederick married and did produce a son, this son would be the Duke of Sussex (after Adolphus dies in 43 and Frederick dies in 48 [IRL, Frederick did campaign to inherit his father's titles, but Parliament refused]) and eventual possible match for his "cousins", Victoria or Elizabeth
 
Or his marriage to Augusta Murray is recognised by his father and his children Frederick and Augusta declared legitimate. They had no children IRL - but what if Frederick married and did produce a son, this son would be the Duke of Sussex (after Adolphus dies in 43 and Frederick dies in 48 [IRL, Frederick did campaign to inherit his father's titles, but Parliament refused]) and eventual possible match for his "cousins", Victoria or Elizabeth
That could be quite good, but what would spur George iii to recognise the marriage?
 
That could be quite good, but what would spur George iii to recognise the marriage?

Asking him first - it was annulled on the grounds that permission had to be granted for everyone within a certain number of places of the throne.

Augusta was a member of the nobility so there couldn't have been much more to it than that.

"How dare you not ask me once? - How dare you not ask me twice?" George digs his heels in and refuses to recognise the marriage.
 
Asking him first - it was annulled on the grounds that permission had to be granted for everyone within a certain number of places of the throne.

Augusta was a member of the nobility so there couldn't have been much more to it than that.

"How dare you not ask me once? - How dare you not ask me twice?" George digs his heels in and refuses to recognise the marriage.
This is true, Augustus asks, George gives consent that's two
More grandchildren for Georgie boy
 
Somwould people prefer a marriage between a Lrgitimated Sussex son and Elizabeth, than a marriage between Liz and a son of the duke of Gloucester?
 
I'd lean towards Sussex in this case as his liberalism seems like it could have been passed down to a subsequent grandchild and that could be an interesting match for Elizabeth who, although liberal and a reformist, would have been brought up more in line with the ascent to power when it became clear that her father would become King when the Duke of York dies. Any Sussex children would have been far down the line of succession.

At Elizabeth's birth (assuming Sussex has his father legitimize his children/marriage):

George III
- George IV
- Frederick, Duke of York and Albany
- William, Duke of Clarence and St Andrews
-- Elizabeth of Clarence
-- Alexandrina of Kent
- Ernest, Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale
-- George of Cumberland
- Augustus, Duke of Sussex
-- Augustus of Sussex
-- Augusta of Sussex
 
I'd lean towards Sussex in this case as his liberalism seems like it could have been passed down to a subsequent grandchild and that could be an interesting match for Elizabeth who, although liberal and a reformist, would have been brought up more in line with the ascent to power when it became clear that her father would become King when the Duke of York dies. Any Sussex children would have been far down the line of succession.

At Elizabeth's birth (assuming Sussex has his father legitimize his children/marriage):

George III
- George IV
- Frederick, Duke of York and Albany
- William, Duke of Clarence and St Andrews
-- Elizabeth of Clarence
-- Alexandrina of Kent
- Ernest, Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale
-- George of Cumberland
- Augustus, Duke of Sussex
-- Augustus of Sussex
-- Augusta of Sussex
Interesting, so could we see the development of a liberal but still powerful crown?
 
To chip in my 5c: William was all for a match with the Netherlands rather than Hannover for his niece, why would he be of a different mindset for his daughter? Marry Elizabeth to the second son of Willem II, his first son can marry as OTL.

Besides, Parliament will prefer the idea of a Dutch marriage (to a "landless" prince) to being saddled with Hannover for another generation. If the Dutch Succession still looks shaky as OTL, then I could imagine that things would be resolved in a similar fashion to how Coburg was dealt with OTL. The eldest son gets Britain, second son the Netherlands (this is what was agreed on for Princess Charlotte and Willem II's marriage IIRC.
This might be a way to get Britain the Dutch East Indies.
 
Oh? How so?
Well, we are talking about an era in which a female monarch exercising an anywhere near meaningful role would be controversial, and an age too in which nationalism is in vogue. Young Elizabeth, and those around her, will be cognizant of both facts, and, while the Tudors were not a great dynasty in net terms, Elizabeth I is well-regarded. I could see imagery, architectural, and fashion influences from that era gaining new traction.
 
Well, we are talking about an era in which a female monarch exercising an anywhere near meaningful role would be controversial, and an age too in which nationalism is in vogue. Young Elizabeth, and those around her, will be cognizant of both facts, and, while the Tudors were not a great dynasty in net terms, Elizabeth I is well-regarded. I could see imagery, architectural, and fashion influences from that era gaining new traction.
Oh very true, the non virgin queen who made England a powerhouse per excellence.
 
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