William IV of Britain's daughter Elizabeth survives.

Anyway Cecilie pleases me - Would there be any chance of having a Queen Female in Norway with Cecilie having as many sons as she surely would have?
 
They could not adopt this horrible law - Carlos Mugnus would marry an English Princess between 1889-1891 he could have 2 or 3 daughters where the eldest would become Queen of Norway with his death It would be a scenario similar to what happened to Victoria of Kent, who had a cousin man - George Cambridge - but became Queen
 
They could not adopt this horrible law - Carlos Mugnus would marry an English Princess between 1889-1891 he could have 2 or 3 daughters where the eldest would become Queen of Norway with his death It would be a scenario similar to what happened to Victoria of Kent, who had a cousin man - George Cambridge - but became Queen

Given attitudes at the time in those countries, I'm not so sure.
 
A somewhat interesting question - Imagining the following scenario
Maria Adelaide of Cambridge and Alexandre of Prussia - december of 1850
1851 Victoria Mary
1852 Adolphus
1854 Frederick
1857 Alexander
Alexander lived in Switzerland if I'm not mistaken. Was there any chance of a monarchy in Switzerland where the throne was offered to this couple or would that be unthinkable?
 
A somewhat interesting question - Imagining the following scenario
Maria Adelaide of Cambridge and Alexandre of Prussia - december of 1850
1851 Victoria Mary
1852 Adolphus
1854 Frederick
1857 Alexander
Alexander lived in Switzerland if I'm not mistaken. Was there any chance of a monarchy in Switzerland where the throne was offered to this couple or would that be unthinkable?

Switzerland doesn't have a history of monarchy does it? And besides why would they change from being a republic?
 
Switzerland doesn't have a history of monarchy does it? And besides why would they change from being a republic?
While I don't see a Swiss royal family happening, they did have nobility until 1848 when they declared the Swiss republic. I don't know what would convince them they suddenly need a foreign-born king, but it is possible with the POD
 
While I don't see a Swiss royal family happening, they did have nobility until 1848 when they declared the Swiss republic. I don't know what would convince them they suddenly need a foreign-born king, but it is possible with the POD

This is very true. What are your thoughts on the Norway situation?
 
While I don't see a Swiss royal family happening, they did have nobility until 1848 when they declared the Swiss republic. I don't know what would convince them they suddenly need a foreign-born king, but it is possible with the POD

I do not know but maybe some crisis related to the generalized corruption in government, as it happens in Brazil today, could shake the situation in Switzerland and make possible the formation of a monarchy - It seems very difficult but we can risk hahaha
 
One question that occurred to me.
In this scenario of monarchy in Switzerland what would be the religion of the royal family?
Currently 38% of the population is Catholic, 30% belong to the Swiss Reformed Church and 20% do not have a religion
I do not know the situation between 1860-1870, but anyway Maria Adelaide and Alexandre were Protestant I believe, would be ideal if Adolphus married an Archduchess or Catholic Princess, or should we keep them Protestant?
 
One question that occurred to me.
In this scenario of monarchy in Switzerland what would be the religion of the royal family?
Currently 38% of the population is Catholic, 30% belong to the Swiss Reformed Church and 20% do not have a religion
I do not know the situation between 1860-1870, but anyway Maria Adelaide and Alexandre were Protestant I believe, would be ideal if Adolphus married an Archduchess or Catholic Princess, or should we keep them Protestant?
I doubt there would be a Swiss royal family.
 
If we agree the Swiss monarchy is not happening (and if it does it'll be a blip in the pan where the candidate is swiftly asked to go home) the next question is what happens to Austria.

Emperor Ferdinand isn't having kids (he had seizures which apparently prevented him from having sex) meaning the next emperor is either Franz Karl (maybe he doesn't abdicate ITTL) or an Alt. Franz Josef (given Franz Josef was born after the POD). Given their marriage was after the POD it's possible Franz Karl doesn't even marry Sophie (maybe ITTL the betrothals for Sophie and her twin Marie Anne are switched?) Now Marie Anne didn't have any children IOTL but whether that was her, her husband (who produced only one bastard despite 2 marriages), or bad luck is anyone's guess. Still butterflies abound.
 
If we agree the Swiss monarchy is not happening (and if it does it'll be a blip in the pan where the candidate is swiftly asked to go home) the next question is what happens to Austria.

Emperor Ferdinand isn't having kids (he had seizures which apparently prevented him from having sex) meaning the next emperor is either Franz Karl (maybe he doesn't abdicate ITTL) or an Alt. Franz Josef (given Franz Josef was born after the POD). Given their marriage was after the POD it's possible Franz Karl doesn't even marry Sophie (maybe ITTL the betrothals for Sophie and her twin Marie Anne are switched?) Now Marie Anne didn't have any children IOTL but whether that was her, her husband (who produced only one bastard despite 2 marriages), or bad luck is anyone's guess. Still butterflies abound.

Hmm this is true, I do think Austria having a monarch who could hold them together and also raise a suitable heir to succeed him would be good. Franz Joseph was a good man, but his relationship with his heirs wasn't the best.
 
Potential kid list for Maria Anna and Franz Karl
  1. Archduchess Maria Anna b. 1826
  2. Archduchess Maria Theresia b.1827
  3. Archduke Franz Josef b. 1830
  4. Archduchess Maria Carolina b. 1833
  5. Archduchess Maria Sophia b. 1836
  6. Archduchess Maria Louisa b.1842
Obviously here the succession is more precarious, given Franz Josef is the only boy, and gets married asap (while there was also pressure to get Franz Josef married off IOTL, this will be even greater without 3 younger brothers to secure the throne). Also, Maria Anna seems like a less ambitious and controlling personality than her twin Sophie (although how much of that would change with her having children, particularly a son who will likely inherit Austria from his father or uncle, is anyone's guess). Maybe she gets along better with her future daughter-in-law and facilitates a better family environment then that between Sophie, OTL Franz Josef, and Sissi? Also, with her daughters surviving childhood, it will be interesting to see what matches the Archduchesses make. Going off already established royal ideas, the Archduchess will at least be in consideration for Miguel of Portugal (although maybe a bit too young), Joao of Brazil, Ferdinand of Spain, and the heir to whoever gets Belgium.
 
Potential kid list for Maria Anna and Franz Karl
  1. Archduchess Maria Anna b. 1826
  2. Archduchess Maria Theresia b.1827
  3. Archduke Franz Josef b. 1830
  4. Archduchess Maria Carolina b. 1833
  5. Archduchess Maria Sophia b. 1836
  6. Archduchess Maria Louisa b.1842
Obviously here the succession is more precarious, given Franz Josef is the only boy, and gets married asap (while there was also pressure to get Franz Josef married off IOTL, this will be even greater without 3 younger brothers to secure the throne). Also, Maria Anna seems like a less ambitious and controlling personality than her twin Sophie (although how much of that would change with her having children, particularly a son who will likely inherit Austria from his father or uncle, is anyone's guess). Maybe she gets along better with her future daughter-in-law and facilitates a better family environment then that between Sophie, OTL Franz Josef, and Sissi? Also, with her daughters surviving childhood, it will be interesting to see what matches the Archduchesses make. Going off already established royal ideas, the Archduchess will at least be in consideration for Miguel of Portugal (although maybe a bit too young), Joao of Brazil, Ferdinand of Spain, and the heir to whoever gets Belgium.

Interesting, why the abundance of Princesses if I might ask? And, I agree, I also think Maria Anna would likely not instill the sense of duty before all else in Franz that crippled him during his reign.
 
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