William IV of Britain's daughter Elizabeth survives.

Also remember that Leopold marries Louis Phillipes daughter in 1832, so were he to be made King of Greece and the Duke of Nemours be made Prince of Flanders (or whatever the French partition would be termed in the long run, a Principality like Monaco) with the British running the Free State next door - it would mean French influence on three crowns (given Leopolds children would be more French then British).
 
Also remember that Leopold marries Louis Phillipes daughter in 1832, so were he to be made King of Greece and the Duke of Nemours be made Prince of Flanders (or whatever the French partition would be termed in the long run, a Principality like Monaco) with the British running the Free State next door - it would mean French influence on three crowns (given Leopolds children would be more French then British).

Would he marry Louis Philippes' s daughter though if he's King of Greece?
 
Good idea.

Three to four kids for them, Greece should be relatively stable then succession wise.

And if I'm keeping the Bourbon mainline on the throne through Charles Ferdinand Duc de Berry not being assassinated in 1820, and his father perhaps being killed instead. He'd succeed his brother as King, with perhaps four or five kids. That means the Orleans branch could potentially put Nemours up as a candidate for Belgium, or whatever region they might end up getting from the Talleyrand plan
 
Belgian war of independence 1830-1838, Talleyrand plan proposed first in 1830 and rejected, then when the rebels fracture, proposed again in 1838. How’s that aoundL
 
By which point Leopold has gone off to Greece, and that leaves the French territory in Belgium to Louis Phillipe and his son, with the Prussian territory to Otto?
 
By which point Leopold has gone off to Greece, and that leaves the French territory in Belgium to Louis Phillipe and his son, with the Prussian territory to Otto?

Indeed, if the powers agree to it. Louis Philippe ruling it as an independent state or as part of France? Considering the bourbons are ruling France, and Otto?
 
Indeed, if the powers agree to it. Louis Philippe ruling it as an independent state or as part of France? Considering the bourbons are ruling France, and Otto?

I think maybe a Duchy for Louis Philippe which could progress to a sovereign state rather than one in suzeranity - the Principality of Flanders, much like Luxembourg.

I'd see Otto as more of a Viceroy though
 
Three to four kids for them, Greece should be relatively stable then succession wise.

And if I'm keeping the Bourbon mainline on the throne through Charles Ferdinand Duc de Berry not being assassinated in 1820, and his father perhaps being killed instead. He'd succeed his brother as King, with perhaps four or five kids. That means the Orleans branch could potentially put Nemours up as a candidate for Belgium, or whatever region they might end up getting from the Talleyrand plan
A longer living Charles Ferdinand and Caroline can have how many kids you want: OTL she had ten pregnancies with a 10/15 years gap between her marriages so I think who six to ten surving children for them are a reasonable number
 
Oh I like it, and who is Otto?

The 15 year old who was made King of Greece when Leopold turned it down IRL.

Given that Belgium attempts independence as a republic in 1830 instead of monarchy, though it subsequently collapses - and resurrects the Talleyrand Plan - it means Leopold gets shuffled off to Greece, and some of the territories in Talleyrand 2.0 are pushed over to Bavaria (instead of Prussia) and Otto (now 23 rather than 15) gets to be Viceroy (of Luxemburg?)
 
A longer living Charles Ferdinand and Caroline can have how many kids you want: OTL she had ten pregnancies with a 10/15 years gap between her marriages so I think who six to ten surving children for them are a reasonable number
I like it no worries over succession for France then

The 15 year old who was made King of Greece when Leopold turned it down IRL.

Given that Belgium attempts independence as a republic in 1830 instead of monarchy, though it subsequently collapses - and resurrects the Talleyrand Plan - it means Leopold gets shuffled off to Greece, and some of the territories in Talleyrand 2.0 are pushed over to Bavaria (instead of Prussia) and Otto (now 23 rather than 15) gets to be Viceroy (of Luxemburg?)

Oh interesting why would those territories go to Bavaria? Did they have a claim? Or is this a consolation prize for Otto not being nominated in the 1830s for Greece
 
Perhaps Bavaria help to settle the Belgian War of Independence and get factored into Talleyrand 2.0 as a result?

We can always hand them somewhere like Maastricht as an alternative if not Luxembourg itself which can stay with Bavaria.
 
Perhaps Bavaria help to settle the Belgian War of Independence and get factored into Talleyrand 2.0 as a result?

We can always hand them somewhere like Maastricht as an alternative if not Luxembourg itself which can stay with Bavaria.

Is that within their strategic interests though given the distance and how close it is to prussia?
 
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