WI:Yugoslavia doesn't give up in 1999?

[Angel Heart]

On the contrary, Croatian and BiH armed forces nearly good fired upon by US troops in 1995. The advance was halted after the 17th phone call from Galbraith (sp) to Tuđman in less then 6 hours giving HV, HVO and ABiH two hours to conclude our operations or we will suffer Air and Missile strikes launched from US ship in the Adriatic.

Had at this point Tuđman and co. still any hope that BiH would enter a confederation with Croatia? If it was apparent that BiH would become independet (at least in hindsight) wouldn't an eventual collapse of the Republika Srpska (and thus a mass exodus of hundreds of thousands of Bosnian Serbs) make the Muslims too powerful and thus drastically weaken the position of the Bosnian Croats in the long run? Or is this "anti-Federacija" sentiment a recent phenomenon?

 

[Marko]

Had at this point Tuđman and co. still any hope that BiH would enter a confederation with Croatia? If it was apparent that BiH would become independet (at least in hindsight) wouldn't an eventual collapse of the Republika Srpska (and thus a mass exodus of hundreds of thousands of Bosnian Serbs) make the Muslims too powerful and thus drastically weaken the position of the Bosnian Croats in the long run? Or is this "anti-Federacija" sentiment a recent phenomenon?

The confederation was still hoped for and that was one of the reasons why they wanted to crush RS (at least in the west, eastern parts would most likely be left alone after pushing Serbs from the direct vicintiy of Sarajevo and might even be allowed to join FRY), most of the former RS lands would be under control of HV & HVO leaving Bosnian Croats in a much stronger position for further negotiations. Bosnian Muslims would be facing wengeful Serbs in the east and untrustworthy allies in the west and the country could not function without apeasing BiH Croats and fighting them was not an option as long as Croatia kept her vigil.

Crushing western RS in 1995 would probably result in a confederation between Croatia and BiH with Croat held areas having "more than autonomy, less than independence" and Croat parts would probably be heavily integrated into the infrastructure of Croatia while Muslim held parts would be divided into two distinct areas - central+northern Bosnia and Bihac pocket. I also do not doubt emigration from Muslim areas into the countries of the EU would be encouraged to "combat unemployment" and "intice growth".

 

[KACKO]

Even though Slovakia and Romania weren't yet members of NATO, these two in particular will not be amused.

Czech were already members and wouldn't be probably too happy either.

 

[Armored Diplomacy]

On the contrary, Croatian and BiH armed forces nearly good fired upon by US troops in 1995. The advance was halted after the 17th phone call from Galbraith (sp) to Tuđman in less then 6 hours giving HV, HVO and ABiH two hours to conclude our operations or we will suffer Air and Missile strikes launched from US ship in the Adriatic.

Really? From what I read, the US supported Croatia. Can I have a source for that?

 

[Marko]

Really? From what I read, the US supported Croatia. Can I have a source for that?

US supported Croatia in order to bring Serbs side to the negotiating table but not to the point to see Serbs completely crushed in 1995. I think you should find it in Galbraight memoars and definatly in most Tuđman biographies.

 

[aktarian]

There was no Yugoslavia in 1999. There was only Serbia with pretensions.

The official name of state was Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Which was 5th version of the name. So yes, Yugoslavia did exist in 1999.

 

[Dathi THorfinnsson]

The official name of state was Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Which was 5th version of the name. So yes, Yugoslavia did exist in 1999.

Which as calbear says was serbia with pretentions. One is reminded of the apocryphal abraham lincoln quote ,,how many legs does a cow have if you call the tail a leg?,,

 

[BuSOF]

Arkan's Tigers were at this point (since 1996) transformed into the JSO (for those unfamiliar they were the Serbian equivalent of the Green Berets and the Spetznaz) led by his pal Milorad Ulemek "Legija". Arkan himself was during the Kosovo War more of a "mascot" than an actual commander.

Isn't the JSO more like an equivalent of the CIA's Special Activities Division and DGSE's Division Action, considering the fact, that they were a special forces unit of the Yugoslav State Security?

 

[aktarian]

Which as calbear says was serbia with pretentions. One is reminded of the apocryphal abraham lincoln quote ,,how many legs does a cow have if you call the tail a leg?,,

Be as it may, entity called Yugoslavia existed in 1999. It was much reduced from 1991 but it still went under that name and was recognised under that name. So Yugoslavia existed.

 

[Andreas]

Be as it may, entity called Yugoslavia existed in 1999. It was much reduced from 1991 but it still went under that name and was recognised under that name. So Yugoslavia existed.

agree. the New Yugoslavia of Serbia and Montenegro had the official name of yugoslavia