WI WW2 is delayed a few years
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Just stumbled across this one and throughky enjoying the debate. Ingfact the possibilties can be quite extreme even without using any ASB. For instance, given Lebensraum as a main driver in Hitlers Germany then a late start (say 1942) could see the 'Allies' being Britain, France , Poland and Germany facing off against the axis of evil that was USSR. It would not take to much of a 'volt face' to make such a coupling seem politicaly, economicaly and morally logical especially given the players in the higher levels of the goverments involved.
Just sayin' ............
Just stumbled across this one and throughky enjoying the debate. Ingfact the possibilties can be quite extreme even without using any ASB. For instance, given Lebensraum as a main driver in Hitlers Germany then a late start (say 1942) could see the 'Allies' being Britain, France , Poland and Germany facing off against the axis of evil that was USSR. It would not take to much of a 'volt face' to make such a coupling seem politicaly, economicaly and morally logical especially given the players in the higher levels of the goverments involved.
Just sayin' ............
Actualy I think the next options would be memelland, which I think Hitler probably would be able to get, Eupen-Malmedy which (I believe) the Belgians were willing to give/sell, but the French weren't and perhaps Luxemburg, although I don't think the people of Luxemburg would want to join Germany (and the French would hate it more than the Luxemburgians would). Besides those Hitler could go after southern-Tirol, if he wants to antagonise the Italians. All of those are traditional German territories.
Still I don't think Hitler would be able to get the corridor, maybe just Danzig, than focus on Memel and Eupen-Malmedy then come back to the corridor and cause WWII.
Still none of this would be able to happen after he occupied Czechia, so he must do it after Sudetenland, but before the rest of Czechia.
So my suggestion would be:
First Austria, than Sudetenland, than Danzig, next Memel, Eupen-Malmedy, than cause a war by either occupying the rest of Czechia, try to capture the corridor (and perhaps Posen) or trying to conquer Luxemburg. Maybe the allies will accept one of those. You can delay the war with a year or so, I think; maybe.
Which gives the British Cavity Magnetron radar, cannon-armed fighters, possibly the six-pounder, the Valentine Tank, and the HMS King George V and HMS Prince of Wales and just maybe the HMS Duke of York. In all, Germany is going to face rather more problems than OTL.
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Plus we would have two Illustrious carriers ready and possibly have a jet being built. The lions possibly being built by 1942.
Hm, maybe after taking a look at the factories in Czechoslovakia, some of the wiser German officers realise that unless they do something soon they're going to run into serious logistical issues what with having to give the Czech tanks a complete supply line of their own, so they ask Hitler if they can have 'a couple of months' to standardise the facilities, which Hitler grants, with some warning that they'd better not run over time. Unfortunately they do run over time, and thus the attack on Poland comes not in September of 1939, but in March of 1940.
So if the war is delayed a few years, we can make a few educated guesses. First, neither France nor England prioritize weapons, since there is no pressing need to rearm. Experimental projects like the Meteor aren't investigated, there's no rapid development of the Spit or other fighters, the Hurricane does just fine. Same with ships. France still believe in the Maginot line and acts just like they did. Meanwhile, Germany is rearming, and that continues to ramp up as Hitler needs to keep workers employed. Some developments, like the FW190, don't get developed as quickly for the lack of combat experience with England. Same with the Panther and the Tiger. What does get more attention is the UBoats and the surface navy. Donitz has a lot more operational subs at the outbreak of war. The Graf Zepplin is completed, FWIW. Plan Z is further along. Germany gets two more heavy cruisers, and a lot more smaller craft, including more destroyers. Beyond that, the war commences with Germany having a few more toys. England might fall if the UBoats can strangle her during the happy time. Beyond that, maybe the Eastern Front avoids the very harsh first winter, and Moscow is captured.
Right mate, you're new so fair mistake, policy is don't necro a thread. There's warnings on old thread when you go to post there for a reason. This Thread will probably get locked, but if you want to restart a discussion on this topic which is interesting make a new thread for it.
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