WI: Wilson died from a stroke on September 25,1919?

What if Woodrow Wilson died from a stroke in 1919 and how the new president Thomas Marshall will lead?
Most likely, he will refuse to seek second term in 1920.
 
Certainly the GOP wins in 1920.

But arguably could the Treaty have been passed as 'a tribute to our fallen leader' ?

League still would have been fairly impotent but it might have had US presence.
 
Iirc, Marshall had privately expressed the opinion that the Lodge Reservations should be accepted. If he takes that lineas as POTUS, the ToV almost certainly goes through. Whether that makes any major long-term difference is a nother matter. Quite probably not.
 
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Maybe with Wilson dead Italy can get more at Versailles, maybe Fiume or Dalmazia and with that no Fiume expedition by D'Annunzio and no 'mutilated victory' myth so maybe the Rise of Fascism will be more bumby or butterflyed away (more strong government, more trust in the democracy)
 

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Mrs Wilson would have more time for cooking, cleaning, flower-arranging, and those sort of things that women really enjoy, rather than having to takeover running the USA?


(Did that really happen, btw, or is it a myth?)
 
Maybe with Wilson dead Italy can get more at Versailles...


It's too late for Italy to get anything else.

The Versailles conference is over by September 25th, 1919 when the OP has Wilson die. More accurately, those parts of the Versailles conference dealing with the A-H Empire are basically over by that time. The Saint Germaine Treaty, which dealt specifically with the A-H Empire, was signed by Italy on September 10th.

By the 25th Wilson has been back in the US for months, has been traveling the country for weeks speaking in support of the treaties negotiated at the conference, and is in Colorado when the stroke proposed here occurs.
 
The treaty gets passed, since Lodge's reservations were relatively minor and Marshall was willing to agree. I don't know how this affects the 25th down the line, since it was designed in part to deal with this sort of scenario. GOP wins in 1920, US joins the LON but that doesn't change much in the interwar period.
 
First off I agree that Marshall gets a compromised Treaty of Versailles passed by acceding to GOP reservations.

This however probably changes things down the line. With the Senate accepting even a modified version of the ToV, fervent isolationism is going to be less of an option with the GOP. This means that the GOP isn't going to pick Warren Harding and probably will pick someone else (Wood?). That in and of itself could drastically change things in the interwar period potentially butterflying away the Great Depression.
 
First off I agree that Marshall gets a compromised Treaty of Versailles passed by acceding to GOP reservations.

This however probably changes things down the line. With the Senate accepting even a modified version of the ToV, fervent isolationism is going to be less of an option with the GOP. This means that the GOP isn't going to pick Warren Harding and probably will pick someone else (Wood?). That in and of itself could drastically change things in the interwar period potentially butterflying away the Great Depression.


Harding wasn't chosen because he was a "fervent isolationist". He was picked because he seemed "safe" and uncontroversial - which he still will.

The Democrats' unpopularity had less to do with the ToV than with thememory of all sorts of wartime issues, esp price controls which were widely seen as favouring the South. Probbalky little change.
 
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