WI: William and Harold are both killed at Hastings

I saw a post recently asking what would happen if Harold won at Hastings but what if they both lose their lives in the battle of hastings? Would Normandy still take England?
 

PhilippeO

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they both have brother. William have Odo of Bayeux. Harold have Gyrth and Leofwine Godwinson.

the survivor will try to reorganize their army and make bid for kingship. On Odo case, if Normans defeated, he might decide to retreat and become Duke of Normandy instead.
 
PhilippeO said:
they both have brother. William have Odo of Bayeux. Harold have Gyrth and Leofwine Godwinson.

the survivor will try to reorganize their army and make bid for kingship. On Odo case, if Normans defeated, he might decide to retreat and become Duke of Normandy instead.

William the Conqueror already had fathered seven children by the time he fough at Hastings: Robert Curthose (1054-1131), Richard (1055-1081), Adeliza/Alice (1055-1065), Cecilia/Cecily (1056-1126), William Rufus (1056-1100), Agatha (1064-1079) and Constance (1066-1090). Odo would have no right to the Duchy of Normandy though he could take the Regency for his nephew Robert (who would only be 12).

It also seems to me that Harold Godwinson also had children on his side... But I sadly don't have the details nor their names.
 
Then the crown goes to Edgar the Atheling - the Grandson of King Edmund Ironside and Grand-nephew of King Edward the Confessor. When Harold Godwinson died at Battle in OTL the Witanagamot assembled in London to chose his successor and chose Edgar so its likely they'd do it ITTL with an English victory over the Normans.
 
William the Conqueror already had fathered seven children by the time he fough at Hastings: Robert Curthose (1054-1131), Richard (1055-1081), Adeliza/Alice (1055-1065), Cecilia/Cecily (1056-1126), William Rufus (1056-1100), Agatha (1064-1079) and Constance (1066-1090). Odo would have no right to the Duchy of Normandy though he could take the Regency for his nephew Robert (who would only be 12).

It also seems to me that Harold Godwinson also had children on his side... But I sadly don't have the details nor their names.

the problem with having that many children is that each of them will try to seize support to take the duckedom of normandy (or more than likly, factions behind them)...so in all liklyhood, edgar would become king of england, and the normans would retreat until the sucession is sorted out
 
It also seems to me that Harold Godwinson also had children on his side... But I sadly don't have the details nor their names.

Yes, you're right. Sons Godwin, Edmund and Magnus and daughters Gytha and (I think) Gudrun with Edith known as the Fair or 'Swan Neck' (probably a mistranslation of the old English), and two other sons, Ulf and Harold either with the same Edith or a different one, a Mercian princess. The second Edith was married to Harold at the time of Hastings, the first seems never to have been.

The elder sons retreated to Ireland and tried to invade Southwest England in the late 1060s, but were fairly easily defeated. It's unknown what happened to them afterwards. One of the daughters (Gytha) married the Grand Prince of Kiev. The younger Harold eventually joined a monastery. King Henry I visited him there in the next century.
 
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