WI - White Russian Manchuria?

This is what I was envisioning with White Russian Manchuria in the Southeast Asian Theatre but I'm not sure if WRM would be as industrialized as OTL Manchuria/Manchukuo.
Wait, is this state going to be on the territory of OTL Manchuria? You realise that 100 million Chinese now live there, nearly outnumbering the entire population of Russia? I thought by White Russian State in Manchuria you meant the part of Manchuria Russia already controls. If you make it any bigger than it's not going to be White Russian. Either way, I don't see why they couldn't be industrialised. A lot of the Soviet industrialisation happened thanks to Stalin deciding to use former White Russian experts. If a White Russian state exists, many of the experts would flee there to escape communism. They have the population, resource and expertise to industrialise.
 
Wait, is this state going to be on the territory of OTL Manchuria? You realise that 100 million Chinese now live there, nearly outnumbering the entire population of Russia? I thought by White Russian State in Manchuria you meant the part of Manchuria Russia already controls. If you make it any bigger than it's not going to be White Russian. Either way, I don't see why they couldn't be industrialised. A lot of the Soviet industrialisation happened thanks to Stalin deciding to use former White Russian experts. If a White Russian state exists, many of the experts would flee there to escape communism. They have the population, resource and expertise to industrialise.
I mean Outer Manchuria along with a few Russian Far Eastern territories that the Japanese have occupied (and annexed) during the Allied intervention in Siberia. Perhaps a substantial part of the Russian population within White Russian Manchuria could be just soldiers of the remaining White forces in eastern Russia which increase with refugees coming from all over Russia as the Bolsheviks start winning/enforcing their rules. I think you're right about this, especially if the said White Russian experts work alongside Japanese technical advisors in industrializing Manchuria in exchange for access to raw materials and new markets.
 
Honestly the best option is Sternbergs Mongolia. A White Russian empire in the birthplace of Genghis Khan, may help the eventual invasion of northern China.
 
How is a White Russian regime in Mongolia going to have enough industrial power to do anything of note in China before the warlords/foreign powers squash it flat?
 

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If this White Russian state joins the Allies in WW2, then it will drastically change the politics of the Far East. It gives the US a base to stage an invasion of Manchuria, preventing a Russian invasion. This will place Manchuria in the hands of pro-USA capitalists. It will also prevent the creation of North Korea. A pro-USA Manchuria might give Chiang the edge he needs to defeat Mao, since it give the USA a vested interest in giving him more aid and also grant Chiang the use of Manchurian heavy industry. If Mao is still victorious, Manchuria may remain an independent state. This White Russian state is also located on the Soviet's only major Pacific port. This is going to make the cold war in Asia far easier. Without Soviet aid, an American victory in Vietnam would definitely be possible, even with China still being communist. If they aren't, an American victory is assured.

It may not get to the point of an American victory in Vietnam, the French may win first time around.
 

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So who will lead this White Horse (or White Russia) to victory in the 20s, 30s, and 40s?
 
So who will lead this White Horse (or White Russia) to victory in the 20s, 30s, and 40s?
I was thinking the Japanese support a White Russian puppet in the 20s and 30s but it avoids joining either side whilst maintaining a pro-Axis neutral foreign policy in the 40s until the point where it can join in against the Japanese.
 
The only way I see this working for any more than a few years is if the White Russian puppet state is WITHIN Manchuria, i.e. it doesn't share a border with the Bolshevik state. Maaaybe in Kamchatka as well, if they can evacuate enough stuff there and are in control of a navy, as getting to Petropavlosk over land in any sort of strength would be nigh impossible in the 20s.

Otherwise the Reds would just push and push
 
Would any Russian accept Japan taking Outer Manchuria and ceding it to their satellite state? It is basically just an annexation by another method.
Actually Inner Manchuria had a pretty large population of White Emigres (Harbin alone had as many as 200,000), so it may not be as far fetched as it sounds.
 

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Why is the US so hot on preserving White Russia after the war? As a de facto Japanese ally I'd say it is considered disposable by Washington. Even Nationalist China will resent it for its cooperation with Japan.
 
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