WI Wank: The French German War of 1965 !

at the end of WW Two, many of French Politicans and Military officer
had the Fear that Germany could start new War around 1965

why that fear ?
after WW One the french Marschall Ferdinand Foch say: "This is not peace. It is an armistice for 20 years"

German nationalists din't take the loss of War,
the Treaty of Versailles, the end of German Empire, lost of territory
wat end in rise of Adolf Hitler and 20 years after WW One, a New War starts

so after WW Two the French had justifiable suspicion of a new War in 1965

how look a timeline were France and Germany start a War in 1965 ?
this can include french nuclear weapons,
a reasion for Germany to start this war or a Frenchs preventive strike against Germany ?
 

Archibald

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Why not De Gaulle screwing things up ? I mean, he stay there after 1946, up to 1970. As frecnh people grown fed-up in the 50's, government become more and more agressive and/or paranoid. And try to turn people anger toward Germany.
 
Why not De Gaulle screwing things up ? I mean, he stay there after 1946, up to 1970. As frecnh people grown fed-up in the 50's, government become more and more agressive and/or paranoid. And try to turn people anger toward Germany.

1945 a 4 Republic (with constitutional of the 5 Republic) with De Gaulle
that end up with French Atombom in 1955 !
and Bombers & Rokets like Super V-2

but it has one problem
Konrad Adenauer first Chancellor of West Germany

the Legend about first enconter with De Gaulle and Adenauer:
De Gaulle supect to find a old Nazi
Adenauer welcomes him in french and ask him of he play "boule" ? (french Ball game)

if this is true i don't know, but it was beginn of frendship between De Gaulle and Adenauer
it was the beginn of the French Germand frendship

wat we cant need for this TL Wank

so two way to change this
Konrad Adenauer is not elected to Chancellor of West Germany (one vote ! )
or his assassination by the Irgun group in 1952 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
 
Only if NATO doesn't occur and/or the US and others pull their 'occupation' forces out of Germany.

And the USSR is perceived as far less of a threat to W Europe.

Perhaps after a radically different WW2, that ends with no offensive in the West in 1940, soon leading to peace with UK and France after a largely naval campaign, and stagnant peace on the Eastern Front after see-sawing actions, perhaps by 1943/44 - maybe with Stalin toppled? Then the Nazi regime is changed - either totally or nominally - and so we have a less/undemocratic Germany still in situ, with the US still largely out of the picture.

But that's so different it'd be almost entirely speculative. De Gaulle would be an aged retired army officer, maybe in some form of political office, but his whole raison d'etre would be hurt without the fall of France, US involvement in Europe, etc.
 
Communist party wins in Franc in the late 40s with a clear majority.

France leaves NATO and joins the WP

Egged on by the Soviet Union,France invades Germany after accusing them of rapid remilitarisation.

Im guessing it would be hard for Britain to declare war on France to save Germany as the British public is still quite anti-German.

This would actually make a no bad TL anyone want a collaboration.
 
I'd like in

Communist party wins in Franc in the late 40s with a clear majority.

France leaves NATO and joins the WP

Egged on by the Soviet Union,France invades Germany after accusing them of rapid remilitarisation.

Im guessing it would be hard for Britain to declare war on France to save Germany as the British public is still quite anti-German.

This would actually make a no bad TL anyone want a collaboration.
I think it would be fun. Something tells me there would be a stronger Us-German-Belgian alliance. Let's explore the impact on the third world
 
i like the idea of a Communist France

other possibility ?

the USA can return to old insulation policy, such as bevor the World war 2 !
with no NATO but a European Defence Union

or Stalin "idea" of Neutral Germany is accepted
 
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