WI - Vichy Poland?

What if Nazi Germany established a puppet regime in central or eastern Poland with a similar situation like Vichy France in the German occupation of Poland? How would this Vichy Poland function similarly to its Vichy French counterpart and how different would it be? What would Polish resistance be like against the Vichy Polish state and how effective would it be against the Vichy Polish state?

To add to this, what if the Nazis set up similar client states in the rest of German-occupied Europe?
 
Poland accepts ultimatum and becomes effectively puppet in a matter of time, especially if ITTL Axis wins. Hitler wanted to create Reststaat but afaik it was only because of Stalin's objections why he created General Gouvernment.
 
Poland accepts ultimatum and becomes effectively puppet in a matter of time, especially if ITTL Axis wins. Hitler wanted to create Reststaat but afaik it was only because of Stalin's objections why he created General Gouvernment.
What effect would this have on the Polish government-in-exile and Polish Armed Forces in the West?
 
Why would Germany do this? Hitler, and several high ranking German generals, believed that the re-creation of Poland was an abomination. Why grant it even vague legitimacy by making it a puppet state?
 
Why would Germany do this? Hitler, and several high ranking German generals, believed that the re-creation of Poland was an abomination. Why grant it even vague legitimacy by making it a puppet state?
Perhaps as buffer state to the Soviets in the east?
 
As far as I know, Nazi Germany would have refused to recognize any Polish State, as Poles and their land were within the Lebensraum.
 
Nazi Germany estabilishing a puppet state over Poland rather than invading would require a different Hitler. Perhaps no Hitler at all.
An idea: have that Swiss student, Maurice Bavaud, successfully assassinate Hitler in october 1938. That way, he's replaced by a more conservative or cautious reichsführer (Himmler? Goering?), preventing WW2 but not interrupting nazi Germany's rise on the world stage.
Some time around 1939, Germany either annexes Danzig or supports a nazi regime there, greatly disrupting Poland's commerce. With the Germans in control of their economic life switch, the Polish government ends up accepting the country's puppet/buffer state status.
 
Nazi Germany estabilishing a puppet state over Poland rather than invading would require a different Hitler. Perhaps no Hitler at all.
An idea: have that Swiss student, Maurice Bavaud, successfully assassinate Hitler in october 1938. That way, he's replaced by a more conservative or cautious reichsführer (Himmler? Goering?), preventing WW2 but not interrupting nazi Germany's rise on the world stage.
Some time around 1939, Germany either annexes Danzig or supports a nazi regime there, greatly disrupting Poland's commerce. With the Germans in control of their economic life switch, the Poles end up accepting their puppet/buffer state status.
This seems like an interesting POD but wouldn't the Poles declare war upon Berlin as soon as it annexed Danzig or any other Polish lands?
 
This seems like an interesting POD but wouldn't the Poles declare war upon Berlin as soon as it annexed Danzig or any other Polish lands?
They could, but, considering the unwillingness of Britain and France to intervene on their side (not only because of the Munich agreement, but also because the Poles are the aggressor here), i doubt they would perform well in this war.
 
Could there be German attempts at Germanizing the Poles and integrating them into German society?
There were plans that were carried out in that fashion. For instance, the Germans were infamous for separating Polish children from their families if the children looked German (ie the Aryan blond hair blue eyes) and give them to German families while there parents were worked to death through concentration camps and the planned enslavement of the Slavs, of which the Poles are a part.
 
There were plans that were carried out in that fashion. For instance, the Germans were infamous for separating Polish children from their families if the children looked German (ie the Aryan blond hair blue eyes) and give them to German families while there parents were worked to death through concentration camps and the planned enslavement of the Slavs, of which the Poles are a part.
I'm aware of these plans - would Nazi Germany carry this out just within the regions of Poland its annexed or extend to Vichy Poland?
 
How long would the Poles last in such a war?
I guess it'd be longer than IOTL, if whoever succeeds Hitler is distrusting of Stalin. But some sort of tit-for-tat arrangement would still be made between both states to divide Poland after the war ends.
One thing to note, also: Danzig wasn't Polish territory in the interwar period, it was a Free City with its own government. Albeit it still had some treaty obligations, which also applied to Germany and Poland.
 
I'm aware of these plans - would Nazi Germany carry this out just within the regions of Poland its annexed or extend to Vichy Poland?

My point is that the Nazis would never establish a state like Vichy France in Poland. They wanted to wipe Poland off the map, where as they just wanted to defeat and pupetize the French.
 
Could there be German attempts at Germanizing the Poles and integrating them into German society?
Parts of Polands were for over 100 years under Germans or Aisteia and were not Germanized.
Of course you can Germanize them. Kill Polish intelligentsia (Germany check), close Universities or higher schools (Germany check) and win war and hold territory for another 120 years. This Hitler’s Germany didn’t manage.

Germans even granted German nationality to Poles or Czechs from
Mixed marriages and... drafted males.

Many of these become source of menpower for Polish army in exile in 1943 to 1945. But also Czechoslovaks in exile were combing POWs camps.

If there was Vichy Poland would end up as Slovakia in 1944. It’s army from larger part started to fight Germans.
 
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