67th Tigers
Banned
The H.M.S. Guerriere was a former french ship, this meant it had already lost a battle when the British took it. It was standard practice in the Royal Navy to down grade ships like the Guerriere and thus talking about Royal Navy ships being equipped with 18 pounders is missleading because the Guerriere was equipped with 8 pounders. The USS Constitution could have been made out of tissue and it still would have won. I am always surprised when the Constitution/Guerriere encounter is described as some epic battle, that would be like compareing the invasion of Grenada with D-Day.
Java was also a prize.
French ships were much more lightly built than their British equivalents, but could outsail them. This made them useful for patrolling low-risk stations, such as the Americas. Both Guerriere and Java were so badly damaged by their encounters with the US 24 pdr frigates that they were unsalvagable.
Macedonian was a really solid 18 pdr frigate, but an early hit allowed United States to dictate the range, and she stood off at a range were her guns were effective against Macedonian's armour, but Macedonian's guns were ineffective against United States' armour.
When a RN 24 pdr frigate met a US 24 pdr frigate the result was "President" becoming a classical RN name.