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One scenario idea I've cherished for possible not-so-near future TL development (see here for a previous discussion of the topic) is the following:
PoD 1: Britain keeps both Florida and Cuba after the French and Indian War.
PoD 2: Quebec and Nova Scotia side with the American Revolution, while South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Cuba remain loyal to Britain.
After the ARW, North America is split between the USA (Canada, New England, Mid Atlantic, Upper South) and British Southern America (Deep South, Cuba, British West Indies), with a border at the 35° parallel. NFL remains British as well.
The USA (let's assume for clarity it picks the 'United States of North America' name ITTL) goes down an evolutionary path quite similar to OTL, except it gets to be much more Federalist and progressive: slavery is abolished in the 1790s (slaves are sold into BSA), there is much more investment into internal improvements, etc.
The BSA develops into the planter slaveocracy we all love to hate (Loyalists and the Civilized Tribes merge together, except the Seminoles that get wiped out due to their antislavery attitudes).
There is a *War of 1812, fought about the ownership of the Louisiana Purchase, besides the usual US complaints (blockade, impressment, etc.), which results into a moderate US victory (Federalist influence ensures a much better prepared US military). The USNA gains the Tennessee Valley, Rupert's Land, Columbia-Oregon, northern Louisiana Purchase (down to the Arkansas River-Canadian River line), and free shipping rights on the Mississippi River and in New Orleans.
Butterflies in Europe leave the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars otherwise untouched, but result either in the victory of Napoleon (defined as "Napoleon destroys Austria and Prussia, binds France, Germany, and Italy into a united empire, and forces Britain and Russia to recognize his hegemony in Western-Central Europe") or in the victory of the 1848 Revolutions (with creation of Greater Germany, Italy, and Hungary, although it is everybody's guess whom unifies Germany).
The influence of BSA planter interests (and quite possibly, butterflies from the victory of Napoleon) on the British Parliament results into the ultra-conservative Tories remaining entrenched into power during the 1830s, and stalemating reforms like abolition of slavery, the Great Reform Act, and the Catholic Relief Act. This causes a Chartist revolution in Britain and an insurgency in Ireland in the 1840s. The former entails at least several months of severe political instability and infighting, if not downright civil war, between moderates and radicals, like 1848 France. It is not a quick, seamless regime change as in 1688.
The BSA slaveocrats react to revolution in Britain and the threat of abolitionism by staging a successful war of independence, while the UK is still busy with domestic trouble in the British Isles. They create the CSA, with the benevolent neutrality if not quite possibly the active support of the USNA, which, due to the *War of 1812, deems the destruction of British power in North America more important than antislavery moral scruples.
Soon afterwards, the USNA and the CSA make an alliance against Mexico, the USNA gets California, Nevada, Utah, western Colorado, and Baja California, while the CSA gains Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Sonora, Chihuahua, Neuvo Leon, Tamaulipas, Sinaloa, Durango, and San Louis Potosi. The western USNA-CSA border is established on the Colorado River. The USNA buys Alaska from Russia, while the CSA exploits its foothold in the Mosquito Coast and filibustering to annex Nicaragua, Honduras, and Costa Rica. Rump Mexico and Guatemala (that grabbed Belize during the collapse of BSA) merge for protection from CSA expansionism. I'm not sure whether NFL and Guiana would stay British or be absorbed by the USNA/CSA.
Butterflies in South America result into the survival of Gran Colombia and the Peru-Bolivia Confederation, and Argentina keeping Banda Oriental (AKA Uruguay) and Misiones Orientales.
This has the quite interesting result of creating a classical "CSA victory" geopolitical scenario, with a Canada-Northern US progressive USA and a Deep South-Caribbean-northern Mexico conservative CSA slaveocracy, by means that do not entail the humiliation of the USA, which keeps the Upper South, or a lasting USA-CSA hostility.
PoD 1: Britain keeps both Florida and Cuba after the French and Indian War.
PoD 2: Quebec and Nova Scotia side with the American Revolution, while South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Cuba remain loyal to Britain.
After the ARW, North America is split between the USA (Canada, New England, Mid Atlantic, Upper South) and British Southern America (Deep South, Cuba, British West Indies), with a border at the 35° parallel. NFL remains British as well.
The USA (let's assume for clarity it picks the 'United States of North America' name ITTL) goes down an evolutionary path quite similar to OTL, except it gets to be much more Federalist and progressive: slavery is abolished in the 1790s (slaves are sold into BSA), there is much more investment into internal improvements, etc.
The BSA develops into the planter slaveocracy we all love to hate (Loyalists and the Civilized Tribes merge together, except the Seminoles that get wiped out due to their antislavery attitudes).
There is a *War of 1812, fought about the ownership of the Louisiana Purchase, besides the usual US complaints (blockade, impressment, etc.), which results into a moderate US victory (Federalist influence ensures a much better prepared US military). The USNA gains the Tennessee Valley, Rupert's Land, Columbia-Oregon, northern Louisiana Purchase (down to the Arkansas River-Canadian River line), and free shipping rights on the Mississippi River and in New Orleans.
Butterflies in Europe leave the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars otherwise untouched, but result either in the victory of Napoleon (defined as "Napoleon destroys Austria and Prussia, binds France, Germany, and Italy into a united empire, and forces Britain and Russia to recognize his hegemony in Western-Central Europe") or in the victory of the 1848 Revolutions (with creation of Greater Germany, Italy, and Hungary, although it is everybody's guess whom unifies Germany).
The influence of BSA planter interests (and quite possibly, butterflies from the victory of Napoleon) on the British Parliament results into the ultra-conservative Tories remaining entrenched into power during the 1830s, and stalemating reforms like abolition of slavery, the Great Reform Act, and the Catholic Relief Act. This causes a Chartist revolution in Britain and an insurgency in Ireland in the 1840s. The former entails at least several months of severe political instability and infighting, if not downright civil war, between moderates and radicals, like 1848 France. It is not a quick, seamless regime change as in 1688.
The BSA slaveocrats react to revolution in Britain and the threat of abolitionism by staging a successful war of independence, while the UK is still busy with domestic trouble in the British Isles. They create the CSA, with the benevolent neutrality if not quite possibly the active support of the USNA, which, due to the *War of 1812, deems the destruction of British power in North America more important than antislavery moral scruples.
Soon afterwards, the USNA and the CSA make an alliance against Mexico, the USNA gets California, Nevada, Utah, western Colorado, and Baja California, while the CSA gains Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Sonora, Chihuahua, Neuvo Leon, Tamaulipas, Sinaloa, Durango, and San Louis Potosi. The western USNA-CSA border is established on the Colorado River. The USNA buys Alaska from Russia, while the CSA exploits its foothold in the Mosquito Coast and filibustering to annex Nicaragua, Honduras, and Costa Rica. Rump Mexico and Guatemala (that grabbed Belize during the collapse of BSA) merge for protection from CSA expansionism. I'm not sure whether NFL and Guiana would stay British or be absorbed by the USNA/CSA.
Butterflies in South America result into the survival of Gran Colombia and the Peru-Bolivia Confederation, and Argentina keeping Banda Oriental (AKA Uruguay) and Misiones Orientales.
This has the quite interesting result of creating a classical "CSA victory" geopolitical scenario, with a Canada-Northern US progressive USA and a Deep South-Caribbean-northern Mexico conservative CSA slaveocracy, by means that do not entail the humiliation of the USA, which keeps the Upper South, or a lasting USA-CSA hostility.
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