WI UK bluntly told the Germans & Austrians in July,1914 "You attack France, you fight us too"

Would an explicit British warning deter the Central Powers in 1914?

  • Yes

    Votes: 59 35.5%
  • No

    Votes: 107 64.5%

  • Total voters
    166
Because you've been arguing for 10 years or more on multiple websites about who was responsible for starting WWI.;)

Right, and in all that time I've never heard of what you're talking about. And, when asked for straightforward background details from you, like the diplomatic history of the Russian protests and warnings to Austria, you reply with nothing. You're telling me all this is going on and Russia and Austria didn't have some serious high-level conversations on it? And if they had, it would have been in all the history books on the origins of the war, right? Like the 1908 Bosnia Crisis.

Look up Pidulski, the post WWI leader of Poland.

2nd request - kindly provide details of the diplomatic Austro-Russian discussions and negotiations over these raids.
 
Right, and in all that time I've never heard of what you're talking about. And, when asked for straightforward background details from you, like the diplomatic history of the Russian protests and warnings to Austria, you reply with nothing. You're telling me all this is going on and Russia and Austria didn't have some serious high-level conversations on it? And if they had, it would have been in all the history books on the origins of the war, right? Like the 1908 Bosnia Crisis.

There's also the fact that Russia had pretty thoroughly compromised Austrian intelligence services prior to the war ... up until 1913 in fact. The fact that they had the deputy director of the Evidenzbureau in their pocket means Russia would likely have been aware of any funny business Austria tried to pull.
 
Right, and in all that time I've never heard of what you're talking about. And, when asked for straightforward background details from you, like the diplomatic history of the Russian protests and warnings to Austria, you reply with nothing. You're telling me all this is going on and Russia and Austria didn't have some serious high-level conversations on it? And if they had, it would have been in all the history books on the origins of the war, right? Like the 1908 Bosnia Crisis.

2nd request - kindly provide details of the diplomatic Austro-Russian discussions and negotiations over these raids.

Since you can't even be bothered to look up an on-line biography of Pidulski, or follow the link that I provided.;)

I never claimed anything about any Austro-Russian discussions or negotiations. As far as I am aware there were none. That does not mean that rebels in Russian Poland did not receive tacit support from some parts of the Austro-Hungarian state.
 
I never claimed anything about any Austro-Russian discussions or negotiations. As far as I am aware there were none. .

Not sure how Austria-Hungary could promote the level of violence in Poland and the Russians never initiate a discussion.
 

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A quick question. Why all the emphasis on Grey and no blame for Asquith? Didn't the buck stop at 10 Downing Street?
 

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Because you've been arguing for 10 years or more on multiple websites about who was responsible for starting WWI.;)

There were two people responsible for starting that war.

One of them was a blundering fool who could not have had any idea what he would unleash: Gavrilo Princip. That he spent the last few years of his useless life in prison before dying of tuberculosis is a form of justice .

The other was either incompetent for not knowing that Russia would come in for Serbia, or a bloody-handed warmonger who was willing to plunge the continent into war to punish Serbia for not accepting all of Austria-Hungary's demands: Leopold von Berchtold. His decline into insignificance after being sacked during the war is very small punishment.
 
There were two people responsible for starting that war.

One of them was a blundering fool who could not have had any idea what he would unleash: Gavrilo Princip. That he spent the last few years of his useless life in prison before dying of tuberculosis is a form of justice .

The other was either incompetent for not knowing that Russia would come in for Serbia, or a bloody-handed warmonger who was willing to plunge the continent into war to punish Serbia for not accepting all of Austria-Hungary's demands: Leopold von Berchtold. His decline into insignificance after being sacked during the war is very small punishment.

When you assign all culpability for the deaths of over ten million people to two individuals, neither of whom had the authority to direct military or internal security forces, well, let's just say that some nuances may be lost in such an account.
 
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