WI: UK a Francoist dicatorship during some of the Twentieth Century

If Britain's parliamentary system had somehow faltered and Britain had been a right-wing ultra-nationalistic military dictatorship for a good few decades of the Twentieth Century before undergoing a Portugese style Carnation Revolution, how would Britain be different today?

My Opinion
Obviously, the Country's constitution would have to be rewritten from scratch after the revolution. I therefore see Britain's electoral system being one of proportional representation, like in Germany. And of course, the new constitution would not provide for a House of Lords. In short, any 'hangovers' from earlier days would be absent in the country's post-dictatorship political system.

If, like in Italy, Britain's dictatorship had been supported, or at least tolerated by the reigning Monarch, I see the Monarchy being abolished after the revolution. The country would thus be a Parliamentary Republic.

Of course, the circumstances of the rise and fall of such a Dictatorship would be important. If it happens due to a military coup during the People's Budget/House of Lords/Irish Home Rule crisis and manages to survive the First World War, Irish Independence would no doubt be delayed, and probably take place as soon as the Dictatorship is overthrown. If however, the Dictatorship rules much later, perhaps during a similar time frame to Franco, Decolonisation would no doubt be delayed and may well be its downfall. Thus the revolution may well coincide with Irish and/ or Colonial Independence

In my opinion, Britain would be very different. The post-revolution government would most likely be left wing and would probably more radical than any OTL Labour government. Perhaps they would be bold and do away with institutions that are seen as elitist and reactionary, such as the Private schools, perhaps.

Most the British People's view of themselves would be very different. We would no longer see ourselves as a nation immune to authoritarianism and be not as proud of our history and in my opinion be much more pro-European.
 
Of course, the circumstances of the rise and fall of such a Dictatorship would be important. If it happens due to a military coup during the People's Budget/House of Lords/Irish Home Rule crisis and manages to survive the First World War, Irish Independence would no doubt be delayed, and probably take place as soon as the Dictatorship is overthrown. If however, the Dictatorship rules much later, perhaps during a similar time frame to Franco, Decolonisation would no doubt be delayed and may well be its downfall. Thus the revolution may well coincide with Irish and/ or Colonial Independence

In my opinion, Britain would be very different. The post-revolution government would most likely be left wing and would probably more radical than any OTL Labour government. Perhaps they would be bold and do away with institutions that are seen as elitist and reactionary, such as the Private schools, perhaps.

Most the British People's view of themselves would be very different. We would no longer see ourselves as a nation immune to authoritarianism and be not as proud of our history and in my opinion be much more pro-European.

These things really depend on the period that this is all taking place in, and the context. If it is happening around the same time frame as Franco's Spain, for instance, then there is every possibility that the country might elect a party of the moderate left as opposed to a full blown socialist one, especially with PR. PSOE have had social democratic or centrist leanings since democracy has been reintroduced, and there were never really any radical left wing reforms like you refer too. I would say there is a good chance that Labour undergoes a similar process in this scenario.
 
Are we talking Mosely or theocracy?

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Are we talking Mosely or theocracy?

JRR Tolkien would support a theocracy. A Catholic one, an Anglican would be a heresy for him, though. But a Francoist dictatorship he would also support possibly, as he supported Salazars dictatorship in Portugal as well.
 
Most the British People's view of themselves would be very different. We would no longer see ourselves as a nation immune to authoritarianism and be not as proud of our history and in my opinion be much more pro-European.

It would be nice if it turned out like that, but it is very unlikely that if Britain had gone right wing authoritarian (not necessarily fascist) as well as Spain, Austria and (arguably right wing, certainly authoritarian) Germany and Italy that France would not have followed suit. As such, would "pro-European" be either (if the various authoritarian governments of Europe didn't co-operate much) a not much understood concept - no more meaningful than "pro-Asian" or "pro-African"? or else (if the authoritarian governments had co-operated -the European ideal owes more to Pierre Laval, Otto Abetz, Walther Hewel and Albert Speer than we now care to recall) a rather tarnished ideal associated with the authoritarian regimes, just like the Holy League, COMECON and the Warsaw Pact?
Where would the impetus for a Coal and Steel Community have come from in the first place?
Remember the fall of post-Franco Spanish and post-Salazar Portuguese regime were fairly bloodless affairs due to the offers of financial and technical assistance (and admission to the club) of the neighbouring democracies of the EU. Now Britain might be offered that by the US and former Commonwealth countries if and when the authoritarian regime collapsed or was overthrown. But who would do that for France? or Germany or Italy?
Unless you posit a world where Mussolini or Hitler never rose to power and Britain was the authoritarian outlier bordering a host of European liberal democracies?
 
Afternoon all :)

If we had a dictatorship take power after the allies were defeated in WW1, the new "leader" would be a fiercely nationalist figure, probably ex-military who would be more in the Mussolini mould of fascism rather than Naziism. Anti liberal and anti union, the "New Order" would be able to call on the spirits of the English or British past - Nelson, Drake and the rest - as examples of the new Britain.

In a timeline I once devised, Britain, allied with France and Italy, would range a war of revenge on Imperial Germany devastating the country and overthrowing the Kaiser. Next would be the Soviet Union and then (perhaps) America using ocean-spanning rockets in alliance with Japan.

The Empire would be re-established in India, Australia, Canada, South Africa and elsewhere and parts of a civil war-ravaged China occupied.

By the way, that "Empire" is the one featured in the Star Trek Mirror Universe if anyone is asking.

In my TL, the French and Japanese betray the British and after a long drawn out war, the British Isles are invaded and occupied by the Axis forces (including Americans, Brazilians and others) and the British dictator dies in the final battle for London after which the city and country are occupied for 50 years by the Axis. The two new superpowers are based in Paris and Tokyo and dominate the world.
 
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