WI U-203 had sank USS Texas

Another interesting outcome of a "no Pearl Harbor" scenario might be how Japanese-Americans would be treated in this ATL. Remember, Pearl Harbor was seen as a cowardly sneak attack by Japan and that really increased the resentment towards the Japanese at the time.

Also, the US military and civilians were seeing Japanese spies everywhere. Without such intense (and racist) paranoia, could the internment camps be butterflied away?

Eh, one could hope so, but I'm not sure whether racism or paranoia (in view of the cowardly sneak attack) was the ultimate determining factor. I suppose it was 6 of one half a dozen of the other, but who knows?
I'm seriously asking that.
 
I'll just leave these here...

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For your thoughts and consideration,
Some simple photoshops of original WW2 Posters...
If you cant tell I kind like this TL! ;)
 
Eh, one could hope so, but I'm not sure whether racism or paranoia (in view of the cowardly sneak attack) was the ultimate determining factor. I suppose it was 6 of one half a dozen of the other, but who knows?
I'm seriously asking that.

Neither. It was $$$. All that money to be had by rapid seizure of all that Nisei property at bargain basement prices. Fortunes to be had by evil speculators and politicians (but I repeat myself) who were fanning the flames of race hatred to make a financial killing. Including in this list future California governors Pat Brown (1) (Jerry's father!) and Earl Warren (future SCOTUS Chief Justice, who, judging by his history on the court, must have been suffering from a delayed conscience:mad:).

The best proof is that the expulsions were taking place long after any "invasion paranoia" had worn off.

1) The only justice the Nisei ever saw against this bastard was his political annihilation in the 1966 gubernatorial election. After humiliating Richard Nixon in 1962, he basically "mailed in" his re-election four years later against a washed up ex-labor leader. Then, three days before election day, he told a press conference, referring to his opponent: "You know, Lincoln was SHOT by an actor!":eek: This. In California.:mad: In a state where if asked if they are an actor, every last 6 year old will say: "YES! Are you a producer?"

Paging Governor Ronald Reagan.:cool::D
 
Neither. It was $$$. All that money to be had by rapid seizure of all that Nisei property at bargain basement prices. Fortunes to be had by evil speculators and politicians (but I repeat myself) who were fanning the flames of race hatred to make a financial killing. Including in this list future California governors Pat Brown (1) (Jerry's father!) and Earl Warren (future SCOTUS Chief Justice, who, judging by his history on the court, must have been suffering from a delayed conscience:mad:).

The best proof is that the expulsions were taking place long after any "invasion paranoia" had worn off.
Thanks for the explanation.

Paging Governor Ronald Reagan.:cool::D
No love for Schwarzenegger?
 
Just wikid it. Anyone read about the Zoot Suit riots? This could turn very ugly.

The Zoot Suit Riots?:confused::confused::confused: What do they have to do with this thread? How would the sinking of the Texas affect (and make worse) riots in California and elsewhere? Besides, those riots were nothing compared to the Detroit Race Riots of 1943.:mad:
 
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