WI: Trump ran for NY Governor 2014

Minty_Fresh

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Well, in Cuomo's case, you don't need quotation marks, he pretty openly reneged on the promises he made to the WFP before the election was even over. Politicians do that sort of thing all the time, but he's especially brazen.
Breaking promises to the WFP is something to be commended. They are lunatics.
 

Minty_Fresh

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PolChat is over there.
Fair enough, but the point was that Cuomo generally has a solid lock on NY politics and the idea of Trump being able to challenge him on breaking his promises and hoping to have success with it strikes me as very unlikely.

I don't see Trump being able to make up a 30 point deficit by pointing out that Cuomo lied about something.
 
Fair enough, but the point was that Cuomo generally has a solid lock on NY politics and the idea of Trump being able to challenge him on breaking his promises and hoping to have success with it strikes me as very unlikely.

I don't see Trump being able to make up a 30 point deficit by pointing out that Cuomo lied about something.

I agree, and to add to that New York's never gonna vote for a birther, especially a prominent one.

As was said previously, Trump's best chance for being Governor is in 1994 against Mario Cuomo, but even that is relatively difficult as Cuomo was charismatic and can hammer Trump on his inexperience. The election was so close IOTL that it's possible Trump loses by a significant margin, but assuming he does a good job campaigning, he has a solid chance of winning.
 

Minty_Fresh

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Pataki only won because he was a moderate. Trump didn't stand a chance.
Pataki may have been a moderate, but he was very much on the law and order side of things, which he used very effectively in his campaign. Trump is very much a law and order candidate. He might lose because of other things, but running on law and order in the 90s was a winning ticket because people were so sick of crime.
 
Pataki may have been a moderate, but he was very much on the law and order side of things, which he used very effectively in his campaign. Trump is very much a law and order candidate. He might lose because of other things, but running on law and order in the 90s was a winning ticket because people were so sick of crime.

I'd say that was a minor concern. The major one was that people didn't like Bill Clinton, nor did they like his "radical" wife at the time, plus the economy was still in a recession. The badly done proto-ACA didn't help things either.

On another note, Trump can also run to the left of Cuomo on abortion. Cuomo's view was that, while he was personally pro-life, he didn't believe he had the right to impose those morals on others, and as such was pro-choice in practice. Trump can be a more pro-choice candidate, and that's one issue that can help bring moderates into his campaign, though he has to make sure he doesn't piss off the right too much.
 
Why do they want the GOP to have the senate?

Because Cuomo is a pragmatic liberal-leaning moderate who works better with the center-right Republican majority than with the pretty progressively left Democratic minority.

Alas, I don't think Trump could have won in 2014 - Cuomo had a fairly good first term and would have been a hard guy to beat even with a perfect candidate (which Astorino was not and Trump certainly is not) in that GOP wave year. There's just not enough suburban or upstate votes to give it to Trump.
 
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