WI: Tobacco plant extinct

I was told I should move this thread from the ASB forum.

What if the tobacco plant went extinct in pre-Columbian America? Tobacco farming was crucial to the plantation economy of Virginia. Without it the early English colonies would have been less profitable and their expansion would have been retarded. This too, would lead to less confrontaion with the Indians and perhaps later introduction of slavery to the colonies.

Tobacco had major effect on world history being the essential component of opium smoking. Although opium was used for medical purposes for centuries, it was the mixing with tobacco that made it smokable and transformed it into a hugely profitable trade commodity. Without opium, the British colonies in India would have been less profitable. The East India company would generate less income for the crown and be less influencial. The Opium Wars with China would not happen, and 19th century China would be much more stable.

It was the oversupply of opium production that lead to the mass production of morphine, another great addiction of the 19th century. And perhaps heroine addiction too would be less of a factor. Butterfly effects on the drug culture as a whole.

Of course there is also no health problems caused by tobacco smoking. Much less lung cancer, oral cancer, erectile dysfunctions, longer life expectancy, and so on.
 
Well , the sheer number of premature deaths averted as a result of this will create an unrecognizably gargantuam butterfly effect.
 

Hendryk

Banned
On the downside... less British Empire... :eek::(:eek::(:eek::(:eek:
Not necessarily; I think that with no obvious way to make a profit with its North American colonies, England would focus earlier on India and its periphery. It may in the process preempt Dutch expansion in the East Indies, creating for itself a nice colonial empire from the Indus to New Guinea. With all those English ships in the Indian ocean, Australia may be discovered earlier.

For the sake of second-order counterfactuals, English traders may decide to see what profits can be made from the large-scale commercialization of the ganja weed, which many people seem to enjoy smoking in that part of the world, though to Europeans it's just good for making ropes out of.
 
Not necessarily; I think that with no obvious way to make a profit with its North American colonies, England would focus earlier on India and its periphery. It may in the process preempt Dutch expansion in the East Indies, creating for itself a nice colonial empire from the Indus to New Guinea. With all those English ships in the Indian ocean, Australia may be discovered earlier.

Hadn't thought of that... :eek:

Mmm, British East Indies...

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Western civilization as we know it doesn't form.
Black and white movies look less good. Actors have to find other things to do with their hands.
Also, in this world I probably would have killed a very annoying boss of mine instead of just lighting up and walking out the store never to return.
Self-righteous people would have to find something else to work themselves into a huff about.
 

Hendryk

Banned
Self-righteous people would have to find something else to work themselves into a huff about.
You mean, of course, self-righteous non-smokers. As opposed to self-righteous smokers, of which there has never been any shortage.

And I don't think the non-existence of an addictive drug would preempt the development of Western civilization, let's be serious.
 
I say that people would find some other addictive bad for your health weed to smoke, chew, and etc sooner or later.
 
- Sir Walter Raleigh would probably be less famous and we would be divested of an amusing urban legend (a servent once caught him smoking and unfamiliar with the concept and thinking his master had set himself alight chucked a bucket of water over Raleigh's head. To say the least Raleigh was not best amused)

- Major changes to the architecture of several places (no smoking rooms)

- We would have to find a new metaphor for 'greedy corporate bastard' (no cigars).

- Churchill and Brunell would be robbed of their most famous vice

- On a more fictional note so would James Bond and Sherlock Holmes

- The NHS would have more money to waste

On the other hand we'd probably just find another socially acceptable vice to replace tabacco and the world would go on more or less as usual.

That is of course if the extinction of an entire species of plant doesn't have a major environmental impact (the butterfly effect again).

Carpediem

P.S. You may or may not be interested to know that tabacco is part of the nightshade family. Then again so are potatos and tomatos.
 
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