WI TL-191 - A Victorious USA, A Defeated Germany

[Michael B]

I dunno, deporting anI-American Mormons to anti-American Canada seems like a bad mixture.

See the point, but Utah is a worse location strategically speaking. Completely throwing them out of North American a la the Spanish Empire's deportation of Jews and Moslems is not really an option in the twentieth century. They have to be moved within the continent

There is no non Canadian island that is suitable and sending them to say the Great State of Houston would put them too close to the CSA.

Onreflextion within Canada, southern Manitoba is out . Instead I would look at say northern Alberta or the Newfoundland coast. A place with a low Canuck population, a fair distance from the USA and with unpleasant weather. Remember, TL_191 USA did not have much against Canadians but they really hated the CSA and Mormons.

Given that it was not done in the second trilogy I don't think that a nasty enough president was elected so this is all theoretical so to speak.

Declaimer: I wish to state that in the real world I do not believe in deporting people just because they are politically inconvenient.

 

[bguy]

See the point, but Utah is a worse location strategically speaking. Completely throwing them out of North American a la the Spanish Empire's deportation of Jews and Moslems is not really an option in the twentieth century. They have to be moved within the continent

There is no non Canadian island that is suitable and sending them to say the Great State of Houston would put them too close to the CSA.

Onreflextion within Canada, southern Manitoba is out . Instead I would look at say northern Alberta or the Newfoundland coast. A place with a low Canuck population, a fair distance from the USA and with unpleasant weather. Remember, TL_191 USA did not have much against Canadians but they really hated the CSA and Mormons.

What about the Empire of Mexico? I could see the TL-191 US strong arming the Mexican government to take in the Mormons as a quid pro quo for the US agreeing not to overthrow the Emperor at the end of the SGW. (Or maybe the US allows Mexico to retain the Baja Peninsula but only if it takes in the Mormons.)

 

[Michael B]

What about the Empire of Mexico? I could see the TL-191 US strong arming the Mexican government to take in the Mormons as a quid pro quo for the US agreeing not to overthrow the Emperor at the end of the SGW. (Or maybe the US allows Mexico to retain the Baja Peninsula but only if it takes in the Mormons.)

Has possibilites so could go with it. However, there is a problem with transporting deported Mormons there. Poor rail communications and they will have to be moved by rail. We are talking about moving women and children and some of the Socialists are not going to stand by if they are put into cattle wagons or forced to march miles, And quite rightly in my view. Another Trail of Tears is not permissible.

In addition they would be next to the CSA. Not that I expect the two to work closely together, but there would be nothing to stop Richmond arming freedom fighters who could easily then cross the border into the USA.

Not saying that the CSA could not arm Mormons in Canada, but more difficult.