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The PoD here is that the US has the new Iraqi government recognise Israel as a nation and cut ties with Palestinian militants as a precondition for US withdrawal. What now?
The PoD here is that the US has the new Iraqi government recognise Israel as a nation and cut ties with Palestinian militants as a precondition for US withdrawal. What now?
The PoD here is that the US has the new Iraqi government recognise Israel as a nation and cut ties with Palestinian militants as a precondition for US withdrawal. What now?
Iraqis would repeat what is often said by insurgentsThe PoD here is that the US has the new Iraqi government recognise Israel as a nation and cut ties with Palestinian militants as a precondition for US withdrawal. What now?
That's still recognition of the state of Israel. It's that first step - recognizing Israel as a legitimate government and not a foreign presence occupying Arab/Muslim soil - that's the big step. After that, whether 1948 or post-1967, it's a minor issue.What if they negotiated it down to an agreement to recognize Israel only inside the 1948 borders?
That's still recognition of the state of Israel. It's that first step - recognizing Israel as a legitimate government and not a foreign presence occupying Arab/Muslim soil - that's the big step. After that, whether 1948 or post-1967, it's a minor issue.
Partitioning any Middle Eastern country is impossible without massive ethnic cleansing. Period.I mean, the Kurds have long enjoyed a warm relationship with Israel, at least by Middle Eastern standards.
The Sunnis, like a lot of Sunnis across the Middle East, have been warming lately on Israel, seeing them as a counter to the Iranian/Shiite influence in the region, especially among the Palestinians.
The trouble will be the Shiites, especially as they start falling more and more under Iranian influence.
There's a reason why with hindsight, trying to keep Iraq unified was a bad idea - like a lot of the Middle East, they're damned by the borders drawn up post-WW1, because you have three very different groups seeking three very different futures.
Partitioning any Middle Eastern country is impossible without massive ethnic cleansing. Period.
Who will be treated like second class citizens by kuwait causing resentment.A chunk of the South, especially the bits inhabited by the Marsh Arabs? Kuwait. They've had a claim on the area forever, they've been a faithful US ally, similar ethnic and religious mix, and they've got more money than god to spent on developing/integrating it. Plus, perfect karma for Sadam's attempt to do the reverse. Plus, not like Kuwait will complain about more oil fields
Ah yes Palestinians still face discrimination in Jordan yet Iraqi sunnis wont?A giant chunk of the Sunni majority West goes can either be another Sunni Arab republic, or given to Jordan. More likely a combination of both
So screw the sunni arabs in the area? Piss off iran, Syria and turkey and iraq? Hows kurdistan going to transport its oil out surrounded by people who hate them.Kurds get the Northern bit - be sure to include not just the Kurdish max claims, but the Assyrian bits near Ninevah - the Kurds have aways been the one group that got along with all the various groups that called it home, especially pre-ISIS. Better yet, give them as much as the northern oil fields around Tikrit as possible
What you have done is caused problems for two allies, pissed off four nations. Pissed off most of the arab population of iraq. Also portrayed USA as nothing more than a imperialist who carving puppet states and straight up proven the american empire is a thing.Boom, you've beefed up two of our main allies in the region, created a third with the Kurds, and the new borders match political/religious/geopolitical lines much better than the abomination created by Sykes-Picot.
Not only that but he also wants to screw over the Assyrians, who've made it perfectly clear that they prefer rule by Baghdad over rule by the Kurds that helped the Ottomans genocide them. And he still doesn't address exactly what he thinks will happen to the Sunnis left in the Shiite areas and vice versa.So screw the sunni arabs in the area? Piss off iran, Syria and turkey and iraq? Hows kurdistan going to transport its oil out surrounded by people who hate them.
But Kurd aRe SEcUlAr.Not only that but he also wants to screw over the Assyrians, who've made it perfectly clear that they prefer rule by Baghdad over rule by the Kurds that helped the Ottomans genocide them