WI the US confronts the PRC in 1990s like it did the USSR

Say Reagan, who hated Nixon by the way, decided that Nixon was wrong for cozying up to the PRC and that containment, confrontation, and isolation of the PRC should be along the same lines as with the USSR. An that George HW Bush in 1991 as the Soviet Union and communism everywhere is falling decides "hey, Reagan's ideas worked on the USSR, let's continue them on the PRC" and he declares "We defeated Communism, but China has changed from being communist to being fascist. They think they can nominally allow "private enterprise" but it's about as private as what the Nazis allowed Krump and Volkswagen". Is it possible to collapse the PRC?
 
You mean that after investing a boat load of capital into Chinese industry the USA decides to wage Cold War MK.2 against the PRC?

Whilst technically I think it could be possible that some US administration high on their 'victory' against The Evil Empire decides to have always been at war with Eastasia, I suspect that in practice the major corporate interests of the western world will move to exploit this emerging labour and consumer market regardless. And the aforementioned administration will find itself tossed out come the next election.
 
No.

Historically, Chinese governments fall because of peasant revolt. So you need the economy to do far, far worse or some threat of external invasion. No invasion, and in the early 90's there wasn't enough trade with the USA. Chicken or egg problem, if there isn't enough trade, the economy is not dependent. If there is enough trade, both sides would have to be acting against their own interests to try.

PODs could be either UK tries to hold onto Hong Kong or invasion of Taiwan (preferably both) AND Nixon does NOT go to China. Otherwise they could just wait for political change in USA and boom, cheap consumer goods for all. In fact, Clinton could campaign on this, and get a super majority (free borders, open trade, cheap stuff).

Americans have always had a "special relationship" of sorts with China.
 
You mean that after investing a boat load of capital into Chinese industry the USA decides to wage Cold War MK.2 against the PRC?

Whilst technically I think it could be possible that some US administration high on their 'victory' against The Evil Empire decides to have always been at war with Eastasia, I suspect that in practice the major corporate interests of the western world will move to exploit this emerging labour and consumer market regardless. And the aforementioned administration will find itself tossed out come the next election.

In 1991 we had not invested all that much into the PRC, our investments in South Korea, RoC, and Japan all dwarfed Communist China; it wasn't until Clinton's administration that you see the huge investment into PRC.
 
If this happens, the CSTO and China will be much closer for they have a common adversary: the USA, NATO and other non-NATO US Allies. Expect each other to trade with their own currencies instead of the dollar earlier, thus angering the West, and the West funding more colour revolutions around those countries. CSTO and China would be more unified. Expect each others' investment to outweigh the West's. The game changer would be in the CSTO. They might be more developed especially if Zyuganov wins in 1996. From there their relations take off. CSTO might be more developed today.

As for my country, it'll have more US troops stationed in it. The Philippines will have a negligible increase in military spending, for (frankly) it is not in the position to increase its defense budget drastically.

If by some odd event this happens after the PRC had begun to reform its economy (Deng), then no, you can't make China collapse, for it's much more stable. Also, China is almost homogeneous, unlike the USSR, so don't expect much separatism in China.

The USSR collapsed because of an unreforming stagnating economy and multi-ethnicity as an effect of its economic woes. China had already reformed its economy as the OP said. Deng would still have made his Southern Tour and the economy would still have boomed.
 
If this happens, the CSTO and China will be much closer for they have a common adversary: the USA, NATO and other non-NATO US Allies. Expect each other to trade with their own currencies instead of the dollar earlier, thus angering the West, and the West funding more colour revokutions around those countries. CSTO and China would be more unified. Expect each others' investment to outweigh the West's. The game changer would be in the CSTO. They might be more developed especially if Zyuganov wins in 1996. From there their relations take off. CSTO might be more developed today.

As for my country, it'll have more US troops stationed in it. The Philippines will have a negligible increase in military spending, for (frankly) it is not in the position to increase its defense budget drastically.

If by some odd event this happens after the PRC had begun to reform its economy (Deng), then no, you can't make China collapse, for it's much more stable. Also, China is almost homogeneous, unlike the USSR, so don't expect much separatism in China.

The USSR collapsed because of an unreforming stagnating economy and multi-ethnicity as an effect of its economic woes. China had already reformed its economy as the OP said. Deng would still have made his Southern Tour and the economy would still have boomed.

Agree on everything except China is homogeneous. The Uyghuirs and Tibetans occupy a huge amount of land, there are separatists and minorities throughout, and the Chinese "language" is a series of mutually unintelligeable languages though a break-up of the Han is unlikely and ASB- the Chinese "state" has not been unified through a vast majority of the Chinese history, its a series of warring states with only interludes of an empire uniting all of China, and even then you can't claim Southern China during many of the "unified China" periods, nor the Tarim Basin and especially not Tibet.
 
China's not that "one" as I thought it to be.

Question: What are the possibilities of China, Mongolia and North Korea joining the CSTO (if North Korea joins, then it will abandon part of its hermit kingdom status)
 
Agree on everything except China is homogeneous. The Uyghuirs and Tibetans occupy a huge amount of land, there are separatists and minorities throughout, and the Chinese "language" is a series of mutually unintelligeable languages though a break-up of the Han is unlikely and ASB- the Chinese "state" has not been unified through a vast majority of the Chinese history, its a series of warring states with only interludes of an empire uniting all of China, and even then you can't claim Southern China during many of the "unified China" periods, nor the Tarim Basin and especially not Tibet.

You do know that the Han consider themselves as 1 nation, and make up ~90% of the population, and that they won't let Xinjiang and Tibet break away?
Even if China breaks up, someone will likely arise and strive to reunify the country...
 
You do know that the Han consider themselves as 1 nation, and make up ~90% of the population, and that they won't let Xinjiang and Tibet break away?
Even if China breaks up, someone will likely arise and strive to reunify the country...

They won't have a choice about Tibet and Xinjiang, the Han are the only ones who consider themselves one nation. The rest of the minorities do not, and while they are a majority of the nation overall, but not a majority in those regions with national minorities. If China ever breaks up and Tibet leaves, the international community will NEVER let China back in again. It was one thing for China to invade back when the PRC was a pariah and outcast and no better than North Korea today, but now China needs the respect of international community and to respect international law if they wish to be the super power they strive to be.
 
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