WI the United Kingdom incorporated Newfoundland in 1949 instead of admitting it to Canada

"They're Newfoundland's Fisheries!"

(Official Slogan of the NNP.)
something's fishy about that slogan...
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Down the line (and casting a butterfly net) I could see Newfoundland being a big immigration through-point.

If the UK is in Schengen, that would mean Newfoundland is in Schengen. Eastern Europeans could conceivably use Newfoundland as a way to get to Canada and the United States.


Cue Trump 2016: "When Canada sends it's illegals here, they're not sending their best. They're bringing borscht, they're bringing crime, etc..."
 
Wrong latitude.
For geosynchronous orbits certainly, but what about sun synchronous ones?


However, an integrated Zanzibar... ;)
If you're going for equatorial island launch sites then wouldn't Ascension Island be better? Aside from solid nominative determinism it's only a degree or so further north than Zanzibar, can be reached directly without having to transit either the Suez Canal or Cape of Good Hope, and has fewer natives.
 
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If you're going for equatorial island launch sites then wouldn't Ascension Island be better? Aside from solide nominative determinism it's only a degree or so further north than Zanzibar, can be reached directly without having to transit either the Suez Canal or Cape of Good Hope, and has fewer natives.

And is literally in the middle of nowhere.
 
At this point in the game, for the most part the Eskimos (as the latter were called around this time) and Indians (as the former were lumped with in those times) were simply ignored; their protests won't be heard until around the 1970s, around the same time as the James Bay hydro dispute in Quebec and the rise of the American Indian Movement in the US. So for the most part except for charities like the International Grenfell Association since they were routinely ignored by politicians in the Colonial Building I doubt that Whitehall would be all that enthused. Until their issues were brought to their attention ex post facto.
It's pretty obvious no one would really care what they thought, but how would they react to becoming part of a nation on the other side of the Atlantic?
 
The First Nations had more cred in Canada than the USA...

...Read up on poor Chief Joseph and the Nez Perce tribe's attempt to reach Canada. Whilst there were clangers (read up on Gabriel Sylliboy) the UK is pretty good about multicultural issues. As for Canada - consider Nunavut.

But the Cod War could see the UK and Iceland on the same side...

Would the US fishermen be more polite with the RN policing the Grand Banks ?

Great Idea - give us a TL storyline !
 
It's pretty obvious no one would really care what they thought, but how would they react to becoming part of a nation on the other side of the Atlantic?

From what I can tell, their reaction would be no reaction - it would be the same in Newfoundland within the UK as it was outside the UK. Now, once they stop needing to use intermediaries like private charity and move big onto the world stage, that's when things will definitely become different. At least for Labrador. Now, on the Island of Newfoundland itself, the only other Aboriginal group in existence were the Mi'kmaq on a few reserves in SW Newfoundland (who came over with the Acadians who were fleeing ethnic cleansing by the British, egged on by fellow colonials out of Boston, MA), but even at that stage they were too few in number to make any decision. Even then I don't think Whitehall would be worked up over a few settlements, and likewise the Mi'kmaq would have any sort of reaction beyond what others on Newfoundland's West Coast would have.
 
Down the line (and casting a butterfly net) I could see Newfoundland being a big immigration through-point.

If the UK is in Schengen, that would mean Newfoundland is in Schengen. Eastern Europeans could conceivably use Newfoundland as a way to get to Canada and the United States.

Problem: the UK was never in Schengen to begin with; I don't see them changing that policy ITTL (even if France was only a couple of kilometers away, at Saint Pierre-et-Miquelon). So a potential Newfoundland loophole would already have been closed before it would be considered. (And even then, if that were such an issue, I'm sure the UK would find a way out of it by placing Newfoundland outside of the Common Travel Area and dedicating a separate migration policy just for them, even if similar to the existing British immigration policy. Therefore, a British passport becomes the primary ID document in Newfoundland, not the driver's license typical of primary ID in North America.)
 
"No one, I believe, is now found to advocate direct representation of the Colonies in Parliament."--Sir Frederick Pollock https://books.google.com/books?id=aSsZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA241 This was as true in the 1940's as in the 1900's. This whole thread is talking about an option that just did not exist. The idea of making overseas colonies into integral parts of the UK with representation in Westminster was just not possible, and would be doubly unthinkable for an economic burden like Newfoundland.
 

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"No one, I believe, is now found to advocate direct representation of the Colonies in Parliament."--Sir Frederick Pollock https://books.google.com/books?id=aSsZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA241 This was as true in the 1940's as in the 1900's. This whole thread is talking about an option that just did not exist. The idea of making overseas colonies into integral parts of the UK with representation in Westminster was just not possible, and would be doubly unthinkable for an economic burden like Newfoundland.

*cough* Malta? Even I admit Newfoundland is a stretch, but if NF voted to join the UK, I doubt the UK would ignore it.
 
*cough* Malta? Even I admit Newfoundland is a stretch, but if NF voted to join the UK, I doubt the UK would ignore it.

Malta both by virtue of its location and strategic importance was in a different category from Newfoundland. (Even for Malta there was concern about the precedent that might be set and the Colonial Secretary emphasized that "She is geographically close to the United Kingdom in distance and in time...Now, there are other territories to which one or more of these circumstances would apply, but to none do all of them apply in such a marked measure, and Her Majesty's Government feel able to endorse the argument in paragraph 77 of the Report that justification of Malta's claim to representation at Westminster can be based on the quite exceptional circumstances and position of the island." https://web.archive.org/web/2015091...mons/1956/mar/26/malta-round-table-conference)
 
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