Gentlemen, for a WHAT IF Spain vs Canada 1995 Fletan (Halibut) war need to involve NATO, USA, UK, EU?
In an armed conflict between these two countries, no one would get involved, too many interests at stake for everyone.
Facts:
1 - Cod in Canadian waters plunder own ZEE.
2 - Canadian Fleet Atlantic halibut ever caught until he saw that other countries with good boats and gear did.
3 - Spanish fleet was fishing in international waters, not ZEE.
4 - Tovin Minister lied about the size of fish and nets. Photo minister is with Katuxa baby fish, not Halibut.
5 - It was not necessary small mesh nets to fish for halibut because the fishery was still very well.
6 - Canada had no ships or technology at that time to fish for halibut, is in very deep water. Look at videos of Stai
7 - Canada launched military actions against civilian vessels in international waters and came to declare war, that's just piracy in any language, said the ambassador of Spain.
8 - Spain sent small coastal patrol vessels to protect ships, not war mission. Never acted antagonistically against Canadian military ships, they placed in the middle only to prevent network outages (very dangerous and irresponsible maneuvering Navy Canada) and collision.
9 - Politics of the opposition in Spain want to send group called ALFA
(PA aircraft carriers, frigates and submarines AA and ASW), but the government refused to avoid escalating conflict (we also have these things)
10-Spain decided to give in the way of acting irresponsible, immature illegal and a government ally, and use international organizations to defend their interests. Yet the Minister of Fisheries ordered further military action. He plans to use its CF-18 frigates and patrol boats and submarines against Spanish, only the direct intervention of the Prime Minister managed to stop everything. Tobin the only thing he wanted was fame and prestige for use in politics.
Finally, as information, only for a "WHAT IF" Spain vs Canada, at this time the Spanish fleet of war, we call "Armada" is far superior to the fleet finishing Canadá. We have LHD Juan Carlos I + PA Prince of Asturias + 5 frigates AEGIS F-100, +6 Frigate F-80 AA and ASW + 4 submarine SSK S-70 (4 S-80 SSK-AIP ready to cruise missiles. Approaching by air would be suicide against the bubble formed by the AEGIS , and submarines would have to be very careful. Finally a fleet at sea is not like land bases, we must first locate that has the good habit of not being quiet.
We acted wrong with a goat or bull ... and you with the seals? or hunting of wild animals?
Do you feel if Spain had "arrested" a canada ship-tank oil in the Strait of Gibraltar or other types of vessels with any excuse "ecological" for example?. Piracy not it be this? understand that could take precedence? understand that we could have blocked a good part of its business easily?. Just close the Straits in case of conflict, is one of the militar maneuvers that are tested based here.USA has shared with us in Rota precisely because of the strategic importance of that area.
Currently "The Armada" is one of the few forces worldwide with a decent projection capability.
Finally: I think, is ethical play with the number of deaths that could have in the event of a terrorist attack in Al is in Spain?
Fellatio Nelson: In a war in the middle of the Atlantic 1 vs 1 you lead a hard day, try a what if this premise.
hsthompson: Parsley "Perejil" was really a matter of honor. The status quo was that neither Spain nor Morocco claimed the island for not even worth a discussion. When Morocco broke the treaty was a matter of honor and not yield to a Moroccan position of strength, like the Falklands case.
Forget the clichés and stereotypes. Spain is a country with great history that has had ups and downs like everyone else. We have our traditions, customs, monuments, meals etc. .. But we are a civilized country, I assure you we do not live in caves and that are usually preserved by tradition, like castles, churches, cathedrals, aqueducts and other monuments .. . ops, I forgot that you have nothing of what I said earlier.
You should take a greeting and a Spanish wine and paella from time to time which is very good.
A greeting.
