WI:The Spanish fail to conquer both Luzon and Mindanao

What if the people of Luzon were just like the people of Mindanao which were hostile to the Spanish and hostile to the missionaries, how would this effect the Spanish and its Empire.
 

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Philippines would remain independent until 19th Century when most likely, the British establish protectorates over the Philippines.
 
Philippines would remain independent until 19th Century when most likely, the British establish protectorates over the Philippines.
Doubtfull. With the Dutch, British, Portuguese and possibly the French around, I am fairly certain the Philipines will fall in the sphere of influence of at least one of these countries.
 
Doubtfull. With the Dutch, British, Portuguese and possibly the French around, I am fairly certain the Philipines will fall in the sphere of influence of at least one of these countries.

If both Luzon and Mindanao are both hostile, unconvertable and uncontrollable it would be only the Dutch and the British who will be able influence them since the two have tolerance, if the Spanish were able to conquer only Visayas and Mollucas, I think the Spanish could control the Spice trade in the Indies the question is how would they fare against the strong dutch (or venetian) attempts to get the territories off the spanish hands.
 
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Wouldn't the Spanish be likely to just keep trying? It's not like Spanish America didn't have plenty of set-backs where they were driven out of a region, only to return later in force.

They still have bases in the region, and a better power-projection capability than e.g. the English at the time. But a Philippines under looser control (a few forts along the coast), and less Catholic, would be interesting in its own right
 
Wouldn't the Spanish be likely to just keep trying? It's not like Spanish America didn't have plenty of set-backs where they were driven out of a region, only to return later in force.

They still have bases in the region, and a better power-projection capability than e.g. the English at the time. But a Philippines under looser control (a few forts along the coast), and less Catholic, would be interesting in its own right

They did keep on trying to conquer Mindanao in OTL but with no success but with both Luzon and Mindanao being unconquerable they will try and try, but the Spanish might focus on Maluku and Palawan.
 
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