During the 1600s while still militarically strong the Ottomans stagnated, with the rise of Russia and Hapsburgs after the troubles and 30 wears war, the improvement of European military tactics and training, bureaucracy, and economic development of the European heavy weights, it set the stage for the push back against the Turks from Europe starting with the great Turkish war.
So WI the ottomans reform or somehow keep up with the Europeans. Is it possible and if they somehow do, could they push further into Europe and maybe take Vienna.
So WI the ottomans reform or somehow keep up with the Europeans. Is it possible and if they somehow do, could they push further into Europe and maybe take Vienna.