WI the ottomans genocided the jews as well as the armenians during WW1?

According to The Great War (the channel on youtube), after the discovering of a jewish spy circle that was giving information to the british the Ottoman authorities considered genociding the jews of Palestine and Syria in the same way as the armenians, but von Falkenhayn took steps to prevent that.
So the premise is that, for some reason or other, something similar to what happened to the armenians (death marches, massacres, etc) happens to the jews. Obviously it wouldn't happen in a scale even comparable to the Holocaust, but would surely effect public conciousness in some way. The answer is, inwhich one? Would be enough to diminish antisemitism (probably not on the same level as after WW2, bjt who knows)? Would the british authorities after an eventual establishment of the Palestinian Mandate be more pro-jewish? What could have happened?
 
According to The Great War (the channel on youtube), after the discovering of a jewish spy circle that was giving information to the british the Ottoman authorities considered genociding the jews of Palestine and Syria in the same way as the armenians, but von Falkenhayn took steps to prevent that.
So the premise is that, for some reason or other, something similar to what happened to the armenians (death marches, massacres, etc) happens to the jews. Obviously it wouldn't happen in a scale even comparable to the Holocaust, but would surely effect public conciousness in some way. The answer is, inwhich one? Would be enough to diminish antisemitism (probably not on the same level as after WW2, bjt who knows)? Would the british authorities after an eventual establishment of the Palestinian Mandate be more pro-jewish? What could have happened?

I don't know man. Armenians didn't have large population bases in Europe like the Jews did. If they did it and were successful to an extent, some Palestinians and Arabs may like the Ottomans Anti-Semitic view when Israel is established. If they do decide to do it, I'm not sure if it would be remembered like the Holocaust or not. I may be wrong, but I think one of the reasons the holocaust is more remembered than the Armenian genocide, is because Germany recognized it's atrocities, but the Turkish government didn't.

If they decide to do it, I'd definitely expect Hitler to drop a few references, and admirations to the Turks, and Ottoman empire in Mein Kampf, speeches, and his private table talks. He'd probably support and love the Ottomans for solving the Jew problem before he attempted to do so.

It's kinda hard though to guess it though.
 
It would probably have a place in history equal to that of the Armenian, Assyrian and Greek massacres. I.e. a few footnotes here and there in the general histories in the West, while a century later the locals will start shooting at the mere mention
 
Considering the importance of the Second Aliyah (the mostly secular, labor Zionist one) to the foundation of the state of Israel and its institutions, this kind of genocide, if successful, probably makes Israel harder to bring about. The foundations of the state were arguably laid down most strongly in the Second Aliyah and its leadership (through HaShomer and the security apparatus).

Wiping out that group would be crippling to Zionism at large.

However, the precedent of actual genocide, not just pogroms, might prompt the broader Jewish community in Europe to take more precautions, and for Western governments to take such talk seriously, when the time comes through the rise of Nazism. So perhaps in the grand scheme of things, less people might end up dying. Tough to say.

As for the British authorities and their even handedness, well, the issue is that if there aren't Jews in any kind of number to the point where they have to be taken into account, then it probably won't matter much at first. Maybe if they take a softer line on immigration, this is a valid argument.
 
The number of Jews living in the Ottoman core areas wasn't really all that large, they did not have concentrated areas of settlement like the Armenians did, neither did they have a history of having their own state/kingdom in the core Ottoman areas in the not so distant past. Israel was not really a core Ottoman area, and the end of Jewish rule there was much further in the past than the Armenian state(s). Also, the Armenians had co-ethnics just across the border in Russia as the line dividing Russia and the Ottoman Empire ran through the center (more or less) of the traditional Armenian state. IMHO it would take a good deal for the Ottomans to decide that the Jews were as much of threat as they perceived the Armenians to be.

If the Ottomans were to go after another ethnic group it would be the Greeks, and the mutual atrocities of the fighting following the end of WWI showed that long years of living as neighbors, ostensibly peacefully, could be wiped away in a flash.
 
@b0ned0me : The worst of the Greek killing was done after the end of WWI, although as pointed out in the quoted article atrocities and mistreatment 1914-1918 was significant. As the article points out, it was the major CHRISTIAN communities which were targeted by the Turks. These communities were much larger, and much more geographically concentrated than the Jews. Furthermore all of these communities had co-ethnics and co-religionists outside the Ottoman Empire who could and did support them. Throughout the 19th century and early 20th century the major countries in Europe were pretty active in supporting Christian minorities in the Ottoman lands in all sorts of ways, and due to the power realities the Ottomans had to take these responses in to account. OTOH the Jews were numerically smaller, geographically spread out - and the extent they were concentrated it was in urban areas as minorities - and the Jews had no outside patronage. In general the same European powers that would get in to high dudgeon over real or perceived slights against Christian minorities in the Ottoman Empire said little or nothing about anything that might happen to the Jews.

While in a scenario where the Ottomans came out on the winning side in WWI or stayed neutral, the possibility of the same sort of genocide/atrocities perpetrated against the Armenians, Greeks, and Assyrians being directed at the Jews is certainly possible, but the Jews were pretty far down the list of minorities the Turks were concerned about. Historically Jews in Muslim lands were seen as very much less of a threat than Christian minorities for the same sort of reason - smaller numbers and no outside patron/ally with potential military power. naturally after 1948 this changed, and with Zionism before that the attitudes began to change.
 
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