WI:The Ottoman Empire never takes the Balkans

Maybe Timur utterly smashes the Ottoman Empire and other Turkish beyliks-exterminates their leadership and smashes their armies.

With the empire of osman crushed in its cradle the Balkans remain out of the Turks reach.
 
Maybe Timur utterly smashes the Ottoman Empire and other Turkish beyliks-exterminates their leadership and smashes their armies.

With the empire of osman crushed in its cradle the Balkans remain out of the Turks reach.

The Ottomans were firmly established in the Balkans when Timur arrived and already was a loyal populated of settled Turks and Muslim converts to support the state. For the Ottomans to not take the Balkans, you'd need a more stable Byzantine state. Perhaps Stefan Dusan becomes Emperor and leads a war against the beylik?
 

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They get eaten by another Beylik. The Ottomans only got their manpower and fiscal advantages from taking over the Balkans.
 

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Perhaps Stefan Dusan becomes Emperor and leads a war against the beylik?

Not needed.

Just go back to before 1341 and either get rid of the 2nd Palaiologos Civil War or change it so that it isn't nearly so damaging.

Most historians agree that the Empire of Andronikos III was in a perfectly viable position, if not the most secure one.

The Empire in 1341 was at a precipice and only needed a good set of rulers and political stability to start to recover.

OTL they received neither and collapsed into a rump state.
 
Let's say that there were no civil wars in the Balkans and Serbia,Bulgaria and the Byzantine Empire
make an alliance against the Ottomans.
What happens after that?

What exactly stops the Serbs from absorbing defenceless lands of the Byzantines? And besides, if the Serbs and Byzantines are not fighting each other the Venetians and Hungarians will fight them.

Having the Ottomans move to Syria or something like that is an idea.
 
What exactly stops the Serbs from absorbing defenceless lands of the Byzantines? And besides, if the Serbs and Byzantines are not fighting each other the Venetians and Hungarians will fight them.

Having the Ottomans move to Syria or something like that is an idea.
You are right ,that if they move to Syria,the civil wars might have ended when go to the Balkans
 
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