WI The Monguls stayed at home?

Let's say Temujin doesn't make it to adulthood, so they never unite to trouble their neighbours more than usual.

What cool stuff might have happened as a result in your favourite part of the world?
 
Less communication between Europe and Asia until a later date. Central Asia is probably Buddhist. Central Asia as a whole will probably be more coherent politically, since their local empires won't have been totally destroyed. Ethnic groups are more diverse and distinct.

The Crusades face stronger and less distracted Muslim empires in the holy land but without the horde and the conversion to Islam the Black Sea area and steppes go Eastern Orthodox.
 
and a chance the black death doesn't reach europe, or even gets out of mongolia. black death casualties during the mongol conquests in china were gruesome in some places (90% death rate)
Less communication between Europe and Asia until a later date. Central Asia is probably Buddhist. Central Asia as a whole will probably be more coherent politically, since their local empires won't have been totally destroyed. Ethnic groups are more diverse and distinct.

The Crusades face stronger and less distracted Muslim empires in the holy land but without the horde and the conversion to Islam the Black Sea area and steppes go Eastern Orthodox.

the caravan routes were already established, so maybe the amount of communication is reduced, but not enough to have an impact.

no black death mean europe had lots and lots more people, so the muslims might be pushed back.
also expect earlier discovery/colonisation of the americas due to the demographic pressure (population sizes), the americas were known much earlier than generally assumed.
feudalism stays around longer (the population collapse of the black death majorly undermined it)
 
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Less communication between Europe and Asia until a later date.
the caravan routes were already established, so maybe the amount of communication is reduced, but not enough to have an impact.
I've read a book recently. I do not remember exactly the title but something like "Communication and mutual influence between Iran/Persia and China in the X-XII centuries AD".
The funniest part of this book is a foreword of the author - he confessed that first he intended to write a book "How the Mongol conquest made Iran and China closer to each other"; but after studying Iran and China before the Mongol World Empire he was shocked how great was the cultural Iranian influence in China and vise versa - impact of the Chinese Medieval civilization over Iran/Persia.
So he decided to change the subject of the book as from his point of view the Mongols did not change anything substantial about communication between these cultures/civilizations and their mutual influence/impact on each other.

So this 'communication aspect' of the Mongol World Empire is somewhat exaggerated in my humble opinion.
 
Central Asia is probably Buddhist. Central Asia as a whole will probably be more coherent politically, since their local empires won't have been totally destroyed. Ethnic groups are more diverse and distinct.

Wasn't Central Asia already Muslim? The Central Asian dynasty that the Mongols invaded (the Khwarazmian dynasty), for instance, was Muslim.

no black death mean europe had lots and lots more people, so the muslims might be pushed back.

But no black death also means more Muslims (it affected the middle east too) and more Mongols means tons more Muslims in the region...
 
Central Asia was already muslim for fairly long by the time Mongols knocked. Since no Mongols means no demolition of Persian world into post-apocalyptic wasteland, meaning it won't lost political cohesion and get plagued by nomadic and Sufi warlords for centuries. In fact, it's easy to imagine that most of the territory that was under Khwarazmian Empire back in the day will remain united permanently. Or at least it will undergo cycle of occasional division and unification a la China or more sedentary warlordism, under a nominal overlordship of a Sultan, Shah or Caliph. Persian world will be much more urbanized and agrarian. This will might decline but gradual decline won't compare with succession of blitz buldozing of cities and farming lands under the Mongols and Timur.
 

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Wasn't Central Asia already Muslim? The Central Asian dynasty that the Mongols invaded (the Khwarazmian dynasty), for instance, was Muslim.



But no black death also means more Muslims (it affected the middle east too) and more Mongols means tons more Muslims in the region...

Central Asia was pretty ambiguous. There was a strong Nestorian Christian element, and yes, the Khwarizmis were Muslim, but of course had local beliefs closely intertwined with its brand of Islam (much like in India), and these beliefs were vaguely Tengri or other forms of Animism. Zoroastrianism had not completely died out yet, and Oriental Christianity in general had pockets of influence, as did Judaism in some small corners. All of this was very transient and almost never unified or clear.
 
Central Asia was pretty ambiguous. There was a strong Nestorian Christian element, and yes, the Khwarizmis were Muslim, but of course had local beliefs closely intertwined with its brand of Islam (much like in India), and these beliefs were vaguely Tengri or other forms of Animism. Zoroastrianism had not completely died out yet, and Oriental Christianity in general had pockets of influence, as did Judaism in some small corners. All of this was very transient and almost never unified or clear.

There were significant minorities of other religions but by this point muslims were comfortably dominant, both in power and in demographic. Multiculturality was precisely the reason why Islam became the largest group more quickly then in say, Egypt. If the destruction of stable Islamic rule didn't prevent almost total Islamization of the region, the lack there of will, at least, guarantee its dominance and future solid majority.
 
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