WI The Middle east no oil?

No it won't. We'll expend the world's oil reserves in the next hundred years without a doubt.

Sure capitalism will milk that for all it's worth, but there are alternatives sources for fuel and energy. They'll turn up once people decide they don't want to may 12.50 for a gallon of gas and profits start going down that the oil comapnies can't buy out every alternative energy idea.
 
There is never a discovery of oil in the middle east and there is no oil in the region.

This is ASB and shouldn't be placed in After 1900. Oil never being discovered at all between 1900-2009 is impossible. And to say no oil in the region is also impossible.
 
Tsk, tsk, tsk, Akuma. Have you no knowledge of the ASBs? They are blessed with creative license, with which they can use for any purpose at all.
 
Oil never being discovered at all between 1900-2009 is impossible. And to say no oil in the region is also impossible.
1= this is not -No Oil ever being discovered, This is no Oil in the Mideast, due to no Oil under Ground there.
2= And to say that no Oil in the Region is Impossible - There are lots of Regions in the World that do not have Oil, Having the Mideast [Does this include NAfrica] being one of them is a Valid WI.


This doesn't change Pennsoil, Spindle Top, Sumatra, Venezuela, Ect. So no Change till 1908 when Oil was discovered in Persia.

No Persian Oil means that the American [US, Mexico, Venezuela] and Indonesian oil fields are more important in WW1.
Now Mexico is unsettled during the first 2 decades of the 20th Century, so is a unlikely area of British investment, so Venezuela, and Indonesia, receive a lot more British Interest.
Post WW1 -Whe may also have a lot more exploration in places like Angola, or Nigeria.
[Having Portugal with Angolan oil in the 30's could change the Spanish Civil War. It would definitly change the whole Angola civil war of the 70's]

More British Investment in the DEI pre WW2 changes the Consideration in the Far East of troops strength during 1939~1941, [Protect the Oil Supply]

No Mesopotamia Oil [Iran-Iraq] means less British/European Interest in the Region post WW1. I remains a Backwater in World Affairs.

Then in 1938 there is No Oil discovered in Saudi Arabia.
Followed by No Oil in Libya/Algeria in the 1950's.
[Change in Algeria's Independence but not sure of all ramifications]

But whe have no Oil Money flowing to the Region, to prop up Nasser's Egypt, No OPEC, no Oil paid Population Boom.
No Oil Money to keep the Palestinian Camps in Operation, The Camps probably close and the refugees dispersed into the local population.
 
To get no oil underneath the Middle East, you have to go back to when the Earth was young. I haven't found why there's so much oil there, but apparently is has to do with the unique underground geography of the Middle East and the fact that it used to be covered by a massive ocean for millions of years. So to get no oil under the Middle East, you have to radically change how the Earth was formed, which means massive butterflies.
 
Or the oil could be there, yet so far down or so covered by harder rocks as to the point of it might as well not be there.
 
The remaining oil rich states have that much more wealth, power, and influence. Lazaro Cardenas and Hugo Chavez are that much more regarded as heroes in Latin America. "Yay!" to the first, a mixed "yay" and "oh hell no" to the second.
 

Stephen

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No it won't. We'll expend the world's oil reserves in the next hundred years without a doubt.

Sure capitalism will milk that for all it's worth, but there are alternatives sources for fuel and energy. They'll turn up once people decide they don't want to may 12.50 for a gallon of gas and profits start going down that the oil comapnies can't buy out every alternative energy idea.

No matter how expensive oil becomes an energy source that consumes more energy than it produces will never become profitable and remain an energy sink. Almost all alternative enegy sources either have this problem or are resricted to specific geologies or produce all there energy in the form of intermitent elictircity that needs vast amounts of bateries to store and use. There is also the chemical feedstock problem.

What we have seen so far is that when oil becomes too expensive is not a situation where alternatives come to the rescue, but simply for the economy to collapse until the fall in demand brings oil back to a more usable price.
 
The Queen Elizabeth class battleships were the first to run solely on oil, and the Admiralty pruchased shares in Persian oil to control the source. So without this cheap new oil the naval war in WW1 may be quite different.
 
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