During the Rape of Nanking, the German embassy sheltered some 200,000 Chinese from the Japanese. What if some overzealous Japanese troops get wind of this and attack the embassy? How do the Japanese and German government react? How is WWII affected?
During the Rape of Nanking, the German embassy sheltered some 200,000 Chinese from the Japanese. What if some overzealous Japanese troops get wind of this and attack the embassy? How do the Japanese and German government react? How is WWII affected?
How bad is it? Were there only men there? If there were women... were they raped? Or are they only killing Chinese people.During the Rape of Nanking, the German embassy sheltered some 200,000 Chinese from the Japanese. What if some overzealous Japanese troops get wind of this and attack the embassy? How do the Japanese and German government react? How is WWII affected?
In no way. Japanese government pulls Panay on Germany, apologize and pay reparations... They go on as before.
How bad is it? Were there only men there? If there were women... were they raped? Or are they only killing Chinese people.
The world is not a game of Hearts of Iron, alliances do not work like that.Uh, result in Allied Imperial Japan vs Axis China in Pacific Front?
With domino effect of US intervene against Japan on behalf of China?
Who end up damaging British ships...
And result in Western Allies declare war on US...
Axis USA?![]()
The world is not a game of Hearts of Iron, alliances do not work like that.
The Panay was a military vessel that was unlucky enough to be targeted by the Japanese. The German presence was civilian and diplomatic. For the Japanese to attack it and kill everyone there, even "on accident," would be to flush any good relation with the Reich down the toilet.
During the Rape of Nanking, the German embassy sheltered some 200,000 Chinese from the Japanese. What if some overzealous Japanese troops get wind of this and attack the embassy? How do the Japanese and German government react? How is WWII affected?
Uh, result in Allied Imperial Japan vs Axis China in Pacific Front?
With domino effect of US intervene against Japan on behalf of China?
Who end up damaging British ships...
And result in Western Allies declare war on US...
Axis USA?![]()
Agreed, but just a small thing: German goods can get to China by way of the USSR. China can still receive its purchases from Germany until 1941, though in practice this will probably only last until 1940 at the latest since the Reich will need all the stuff it builds for its own plans.Germany supporting Nationalist China doesn't make China an axis power, it simply means that everyone is pissed off at Japan. There's no reason prewar why China cannot accept aid from Germany while maintaining good relations with the allies, and once the war gets going Chiang would have to be high on opiates to cast his lot with the side that has virtually no ability to support him. The only way German arms in any quantities would get to China would be through India or Southeast Asia, which for obvious reasons would not continue after 1939.
The part where this begins to suck is around 1940. France is defeated, Japan is clearly focused on taking out China, but CHINA ISN'T FRIENDLY with the Allies. The Japanese aim of defeating China remains, but the UK at a minimum, doesn't want a Pro-Axis Chiang to win.
We could have a really dystopic scenario where the UK and USA basically greenlight Japan's rampage against China or even some assistance in building a "new order". Presumably no embargo against Japan, possibly some support if Japan decides to create some additional puppet states, like a Wang Jingwei lead "Republic of China", Inner Mongolia, and North China. Ultimately, Japan will have to declare victory with some kind of puppet regime in place and consolidate its gains.
Ultimately, Germany is still going to start WWII and I don't think positive press from China can change much.
France is defeated, Japan is clearly focused on taking out China, but CHINA ISN'T FRIENDLY with the Allies. The Japanese aim of defeating China remains, but the UK at a minimum, doesn't want a Pro-Axis Chiang to win.
We could have a really dystopic scenario where the UK and USA basically greenlight Japan's rampage against China or even some assistance in building a "new order". Presumably no embargo against Japan, possibly some support if Japan decides to create some additional puppet states, like a Wang Jingwei lead "Republic of China", Inner Mongolia, and North China. Ultimately, Japan will have to declare victory with some kind of puppet regime in place and consolidate its gains.