WI: The Beatles Break Up ... In 1966?

After the Beatles stopped touring in 1966, there was a lull of several months between their last album (Revolver) and when we heard anything musically from them, a time which was unprecedentedly long back then. The Beatles went in different directions: Lennon went off to star in "How I Won the War", McCartney wrote the score for "The Family Way", George Harrison and his wife went to India and took sitar lessons with Ravi Shankar and immersed himself in Hinduism and India, and Ringo stayed home.
And since all was quiet, there were rumors that there was trouble in the group, and that the band was splitting up. There was also a backlash among snide critics who against the Beatles, saying the group was used up and done creatively. Of course, in the OTL, they reconvened, and recorded "Strawberry Fields Forever", "Penny Lane", and the album "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band".

But, the Beatles were actually close to breaking up. 1966 had been a Hellish year, for one. In the Philippines, the Beatles politely declined an invitation by the dictators wife to attend a breakfast reception at the Presidential Palance. After this was broadcast, their police protection disappeared, and they had to make it to the airport on their own. "At the airport, road manager Mal Evans was beaten and kicked, and the band members were pushed and jostled about by a hostile crowd. Once the group boarded the plane, Epstein and Evans were ordered off, and Evans (fearing he would be imprisoned or executed) said, "Tell my wife that I love her." Epstein was forced to give the tax authorities £6,800 worth of Philippine peso notes from the Manila shows, and had to sign the tax bond verifying the exchange before being allowed back on the plane". Later that year, Lennon said the Beatles were "Bigger than Jesus", and American Christians went crazy, burning Beatles albums and memorabilia, and condemning the group, and the Klan and racists also followed suite. There was an incident in Memphis at this time where the Klan vowed vengence and, during the concert, someone through a firecracker on stage which the Beatles thought was someone shooting one of them. "Yesterday and Today" was also released in America in 1966, with its infamous "Butcher Cover" causing a firestorm of controversy. And atop all that, the Beatles had been recording and touring nonstop since they got famous, the crowds were screaming so loud they couldn't hear themselves play anyway, and they were tired and worn out.

Lennon, the de facto leader and founder of the Beatles, felt tired, depressed (I believe because of marital troubles with Cynthia), and unsure of his musical direction, and got very into LSD. All of which made him removed, and he felt like it was perhaps time to move on to something else. George Harrison was also worn out and tired of being a Beatle at the time, and threatened to leave the group following their final performance at Candlestick park. And overall, all of them were tired. So they were very close to going seperate ways. What we got instead was the tranformation from the moptop era (which was, granted, rather diverse, including the Folk of "Rubber Soul" and the Psychedelic of "Revolver"), to Beatles thereafter, with the Psychedelic Free Love era of Sgt. Pepper/Magical Mystery Tour and then the individualistic, inward looking White Album, and then Abbey Road and Let It Be.

So what if the Beatles, after "Revolver" and after they stopped touring, broke up?
 
beatles break up

john lennon stays in england:eek: from 66 to 70 stays married to cynthia never gets shot. ringo plays on albums for kinks, who does acting and solo. george harrison joins clapton in cream and does a solo paul mcartney has his biggest solo hit in sargent pper album which he does by himself. john lennon does his first solo album in 1970. in 1980 the beatles reunite mark chapman tries to shoot john lennon but he trips on stage while the beatles are reheashing in new york for a tour. he is elctrocuted to death. the beatles record new material till 1989. till they break up again.
 
john lennon stays in england:eek: from 66 to 70 stays married to cynthia never gets shot.

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john lennon does his first solo album in 1970.
Lennon met Yoko in 1966. And I don't think he'd stop his musical career for that long, though it is perhaps possible.

ringo plays on albums for kinks, who does acting and solo.
Did Ringo have a relationship with the Kinks?

george harrison joins clapton in cream and does a solo

I suppose that's possible. I don't know if George was ready to go solo yet in 1966. But I think George's Beatle sound would possibly conflict with Cream's sound.

paul mcartney has his biggest solo hit in sargent pper album which he does by himself.
I don't know if he'd do Sgt. Pepper's by himself. And if he did, it would be a totally different album. The Paul elements may be there, but all the other Beatles contribute would not be there at all.

in 1980 the beatles reunite mark chapman tries to shoot john lennon but he trips on stage while the beatles are reheashing in new york for a tour. he is elctrocuted to death. the beatles record new material till 1989. till they break up again.

Buttaflies.
 
As far as The Beatles are concerned a break up in 1966 means that they will be remembered as an above average 60's pop band that lost their 'pop hit touch' with revolver and then split up.

I think Lennon would do what he did best which was imitating artists more original than himself. In 1966 he would probably still want to be a British Bob Dylan and he would go on stage with his guitar and sing a few ballads before tying to make super groups in the 70's.

Harrison would probably become a bigger solo star than otl because his "hare Krishna" phase wouldn't be as much a defining feature as it was in 1970.

Ringo would still be Ringo and just live it up either by playing drums for others or acting as OTL.

Paul Mccartney would do less well I think because he would be seen as an even bigger lightweight mop top in 1966 than in 1970. He would have hits but his career would disappear into nostalgia gigs much earlier than OTL.
 
here's how I see the solo Beatles next career moves in this timeline..

John Lennon forms a new band, with a rougher style than the Beatles.. Probably in a psychedelic-garage style similar to the 13th Floor Elevators. With early singles written to shock people and shake-off the moptop image, his band play clubs like UFO to audiences of aghast hippies.

Paul McCartney has some song ideas that would've made it to the next Beatles album. by a chance meeting, he runs into Graham Nash and is invited to a Hollies recording session at Abbey Road in early 1967...

George Harrison takes an extended break from the music industry in 1967 to indulge in his growing interest in eastern mysticism. By late 1967, the urge returns to play guitar again, and he recruits a band of mostly unknowns and surprises audiences by playing 1950s style rock'n'roll - months before Frank Zappa releases his 'Reuben &the Jets' album.

Ringo is keen to keep drumming, but because he's not writing it's hard to start his own band. session work, and the odd guest appearance on stage with established bands, until he gets a call from George to help set-up a "good old rock and roll band" in late 1967... ("he told me 'you're the best rock and roll drummer I know'" Ringo would later say in interviews...)
 
I think Lennon and McCartney would move to solo careers and not join up with any established bands or performers. George and Ringo might work together on a single album around 1969, but they too would end up solo acts as in OTL.
 
It's funny, I was considering making a WI thread about this same kind of situation, but the difference is that Paul McCartney's death would be revealed to the public, and so they, most likely, break up. He allegedly died in late 1966, so it is very similar to mine, in a way.
 
I'm-a gonna break down the Beatles. I think a lot of it would be the same as when they actually did break up, but just with them a bit more green:

John Lennon: The Leader, the Intellectual, the Whitty and Outspoken One.

A bit removed and depressed around the time due to mixed feelings over his musical direction and his life and marriage, and experimenting with Acid. Both of these would open it up for Paul to take over more control of the group in the OTL. He didn't wanna be a Beatle when he was 30, which is part of the reason the Beatles broke up in the OTL. In 1966, he went off to do a film and met Yoko Ono at an art gallery.

Lennon was a big fan of Bob Dylan, which is part of the reason he adopted the Counter Culture leader persona he took on in the OTL (and because Lennon believed in what he said and fought for). In 1966, Bob Dylan also dropped out of view following a motorcycle crash, which would open the door for Lennon to play that rebellious, voice of a generation role if he wanted to. I think his independent musical direction could be be gauged by looking at "Strawberry Fields Forever". This song was like a page of Lennon's diary, very new for the Beatles, and Lennon was worried that it wasn't a Beatles kind of song when he showed it to the rest of the group. I think the other songs on "Sgt. Pepper" and "Magical Mystery Tour" also point towards his direction initially as a solo artist; psychedelic music, progressive rock, sometimes experimental, and regular rock, but a regular rock aware of the age its in, and starting to become very inward looking and expressive of whats inward, if not just simply irreverent (not in a negative way, but being just random for fun, like "Hey Bulldog).

As the decade progresses, I expect him to continue looking inward like on the White Album, before eventually taking that inward focus and continuing on to getting back to a form of good ol' Rock he went into around Abbey Road and later; one which was the sound of Good ol' Rock, but in a way which had learned from all that came previous.

If the Beatles broke up earlier and without such bad blood, I could also see him being more open to getting the band back together later.

Paul McCartney: The Pop, Cute One.

Paul was the one with the best endurance here. He was not as burned out as the rest of the group from touring, and would go on to lead the way when the rest were tired. He led the direction in making Sgt Pepper's what it was, led the Beatles into making the movie "Magical Mystery Tour", and would later lead them around into making "Let it Be" and "Abbey Road", always trying to keep the group up and running when the other got tired of the Beatles. Paul was fine being a Beatle until he wasn't.

Without the Beatles, I expect Paul to also go a similar direction he did in the OTL. He'd be Pop, and do some "Granny Rockers" as Lennon used to call some of his songs. Occasionally he'd do something deep, but most of the time he'd be more light hearted. Like the OTL, this won't make the critics laud him as the greatest artist ever, but he will be a fan favorite and successful.

George Harrison: The Silent One, The Shy One.

Harrison was tired of being a Beatle, and was starting to get mad that he wasn't able to contribute more to the band. I think Harrison can do great, and by 1966 he was already starting to build up songs which the group wasn't letting him put on the albums, but I think he will suffer somewhat from not being able to stew for those 3 extra years.

His direction, I don't know. But I think he will continue to go into the Indian/Hindu direction he went in the OTL since he already went to India and immersed himself in that culture.

Ringo Starr: The Funny One.

Ringo is...Ringo.
 
Eppy!!!! I know a constructive way to bump this!

What happens with Brian Epstein? The manager of the Beatles, he was. He died a short time after Sgt Pepper's. If the Beatles break up in 1966, what happens to Epstein? Does he continue as manager of the 4 individually after they break up? Is he kicked to the curb? What?
 
Never one to ignore a Beatles thread Emperor. All of the above scenarios, though some conflict, are plausible. I'd like to see George lead a super group of sorts (he could head hunt and cherry pick the best) with all of the songwriting Beatles producing one or two classic 1960's pop/rock albums. It depends where they go and who they meet to be honest so anything's possible. What about for example the seemingly unlikely scenario of John ending up in Nashville to clear his head with a 'Nashville Skyline' type album? It just requires him to hook up with the right people at the right time. Gene Clarke for example.
Paul will hopefully give us Sgt Pepper's and maybe even a better Magical Mystery Tour and be remembered well for them both.
Keep Brian Epstein busy and keep him alive is all I ask.
Oh and have them reform in the 1970s with 'Band on the Run' as their first new album.

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Here's some other thoughts for you. If the Beatles are gone in '66, what does that do to all the other bands who no longer have to compete for airplay? What does that do to The Monkees? Do they even get created? (No "Last Train to Clarksvile"?:( I liked that song.;)) Does it impact the Beach Boys at all? Is the British Invasion a bit stillborn? Or less influential?
 
Here's some other thoughts for you. If the Beatles are gone in '66, what does that do to all the other bands who no longer have to compete for airplay? What does that do to The Monkees? Do they even get created? (No "Last Train to Clarksvile"?:( I liked that song.;)) Does it impact the Beach Boys at all? Is the British Invasion a bit stillborn? Or less influential?

I don't know how much it will effect the other bands. The Beatles, while the bestest thing ever, were not the be all and end all, and the other bands had talent which was independent of the Beatles, and were doing what they were independent of the Beatles. The Beatles had a major influence on music, and it's direction, but many things were also trends already in play. Keep in mind, too, they'll still have to compete with airplay from 4 separate Beatles.:D

I don't know what happens to the Monkees.

The Beach Boys may do better. If Brian Wilson is no longer put under the pressure of having to compete with the Beatles (Sgt Pepper's floored him), he may stay mentally stable for longer. Which means we could see the release of "Smile", and a consistent lineup.

The British invasion was already there and in full swing, and have been since 1964. You have the Rolling Stones, The Hollies, The Zombies, and so on and so on.
 
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