WI: Switch the Fates of Arthur Tudor and Catherine of Aragon

That makes sense with regards to the Aragon girls, but I wonder if Germaine will remarry if such an act will almost certainly cost her her kids and be under wild protest from Juana, who won't be a huge fan of her stepmother simply for the reason that Ferdinand married her to deny Aragon for Juana. Juana won't let her half-sisters overseas and I could see Germaine viewing her presence as the last line of defense from Juana deciding to remove her father's second family from the court by suggesting they all take the veil or exist as spinsters.

As for Mary Tudor, one thing I was considering was having Anne of Brittany having her stillborn son in 1503 and her miscarriage in 1505 be healthy boys, making Louis XII less in need of an heir and Anne more likely to survive (as I can see her cutting off sexual relationships in the name of health) making Mary unnecessary, unless she's marrying Francis as an insurance policy, and even then I still see him marrying Claude.


The reason Ferdinand becomes Maximilian is I can see Ferdinand II still trying to pull the "Juana's crazy and I need to assume the Regency" card because he wants the political power and thinks a pregnant Juana's an easy target. That plus the persistent rumors that her dad is already exploring the marriage market to game her out of Aragon means that by the time the baby is born Juana is angry at her dad and names the baby after her father-in-law as a sort of screw you to Ferdinand. Does that seem too OOC for Juana or would it make sense?

I'm not sure. Although it might be one of the only choices she has with both Phillip and Ferdinand out. Then again, there is very little on whether the two of them actually had a relationship since Maximilian ruled from Austria before her mardiagw, as Phillip took over for him in 1494. And Maximilian didn't really do much for Juana, even when she was being accused of being mad.

A possibility for another name might be Juan, which was her brother's.
 
That makes sense with regards to the Aragon girls, but I wonder if Germaine will remarry if such an act will almost certainly cost her her kids and be under wild protest from Juana, who won't be a huge fan of her stepmother simply for the reason that Ferdinand married her to deny Aragon for Juana. Juana won't let her half-sisters overseas and I could see Germaine viewing her presence as the last line of defense from Juana deciding to remove her father's second family from the court by suggesting they all take the veil or exist as spinsters.

As for Mary Tudor, one thing I was considering was having Anne of Brittany having her stillborn son in 1503 and her miscarriage in 1505 be healthy boys, making Louis XII less in need of an heir and Anne more likely to survive (as I can see her cutting off sexual relationships in the name of health) making Mary unnecessary, unless she's marrying Francis as an insurance policy, and even then I still see him marrying Claude.



The reason Ferdinand becomes Maximilian is I can see Ferdinand II still trying to pull the "Juana's crazy and I need to assume the Regency" card because he wants the political power and thinks a pregnant Juana's an easy target. That plus the persistent rumors that her dad is already exploring the marriage market to game her out of Aragon means that by the time the baby is born Juana is angry at her dad and names the baby after her father-in-law as a sort of screw you to Ferdinand. Does that seem too OOC for Juana or would it make sense?
Anne and Louis having sons put Claude back in the market and so her father will be unhappy if he can not get a Habsburg boy (Charles or the third boy) for her...
I was not suggesting overseas wedding for them as Naples was already under Aragon rule (so they were just a landless junior branch of the family) and Portugal was pratically family (plus younger kids/cousins of the King when the heir is already engaged/married to Eleanor of Austria).

I do not think Ferdinand will have enough material for pulling the "Juana is crazy" thing here as the worst OTL happened after our POD and also after our main Spanish POD... Plus saying Juana was mad and unable to rule was dangerous to say with Philip alive and healthy and Ferdinand was too much expert in politics for doing that for me...
But still OTL Ferdinand's name was almost surely chosen by Ferdinand and Isabella so if Philip had choice he will be likely called Maximilian. For the third son John because at that time Ferdinand's second wedding would have surely caused a big split with Juana and Philip (plus that was a name used in both Spain and France and so more of Philip's liking)
 
Anne and Louis having sons put Claude back in the market and so her father will be unhappy if he can not get a Habsburg boy (Charles or the third boy) for her.

Would Claude be a more attractive match then Isabel of Portugal or Elizabeth of England (who would be second in line to the throne after her brother)?
 
Would Claude be a more attractive match then Isabel of Portugal or Elizabeth of England (who would be second in line to the throne after her brother)?
Unlikely, unless she was giving back some lands to Burgundy as dowry. But a match between the Dauphin and Isabella of Austria (2 years older than him) is really likely
 
Unlikely, unless she was giving back some lands to Burgundy as dowry. But a match between the Dauphin and Isabella of Austria (2 years older than him) is really likely

Makes sense, so Denmark will need to find a new bride. Maybe that's where we put Mary Tudor (since I'm assuming Isabella's younger sisters will marry into Hungary and England over Denmark)
 
Makes sense, so Denmark will need to find a new bride. Maybe that's where we put Mary Tudor (since I'm assuming Isabella's younger sisters will marry into Hungary and England over Denmark)
Mary Tudor in Denmark then...
Double matches with Hungary and England are worth much more than Denmark under any point of view
 
Won't Henry VII have to return the dowry if Arthur doesn't marry another relative of the Emperor?
I do not know as Catalina is dead... Plus Arthur will remarry to the Emperor's niece as Castile and Aragon can not offer him another bride of the right age or one with Lancastrian blood
I think you wanted say another relative of the Catholic Kings (as Ferdinand and Isabella were know) but Isabella here will die shortly after Catalina and before Arthur's second wedding so his new bride will be not only the Emperor's niece but also the first cousin of the King Consort of Castile and Duke of Burgundy
 
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