WI stronger poland during the blitz

as is known the 7tp was a rather good tank by 1939 standards, and the bofors antitank gun was relatively eficient as well, so asuming the polish somehow organised their industry diferently and, with say more british aid, managed to produce say... 2000-3000 7tp tanks possibly partly with forein parts and buy a 1000 more bofors antitank field guns

at the same time the chekoslovakian gowerment is taken ower by the more radical komunist party, and beneš is pushed back into oposition
during 1938 the chekoslovakian army makes a stand and recives aid from the soviets
afcourse this is not enough to actually stop the germans but in 1939 the werhmarht is still buisy with moravia and the checks and slovaks give them one hell of a guerilla war after the german army fights trough the defences with nonnegligable losses

around 1940 hitler decides to finaly go for poland
asuming a third of german forces engaged in the invasion of poland in OTL are buisy ider in chekoslovakia or somewhere along warious borders and that polish generals had time to observe german tacktics, how would the defence war go?

it is reasonable to assume the germans would still win theyr half of poland and the soviet the other, but would a stronger polish army with more wictories and more german casulties make a diference in the long run?

mainly what would this do to the war in the low lands and generaly the blitz thowards paris?

is there a chance that germani burns out in europe before the war goes global?
and if so what happens to italy?
 
If the war really did start somewhen in 1940 against a far better equipped Poland, then Germany may get such a beating that Hitler may actually stop dreaming of Nazi world domination.
Bigger tank clashes between Germany and Poland may make the British and French generals to change their tactics in the coming Western campaign. On the other hand, if Germany gets tied up in Poland long enough, who knows, maybe the Allies will finally decide to backstab them and cross the Rhine. :eek:
Poland still falls, simply because its too weak to defend against both Germany and the USSR. Perhaps however the line is set more to the West, as the USSR is better equipped by now and the Germans are slower advancing.

As for Italy... Well I guess Italy is raped...
 
There may be a considerable difference in the outcome of the war. Though it is likely they will beat the Polish out eventually, it is going to erode their combat effectiveness.

Also it is much more beneficial to the Poles to have more men equipped and survive who can later join the resistance movement and cause much headache for the Heer. I think they would have received more aid from the allies this time to bolster their defences.
 
as is known the 7tp was a rather good tank by 1939 standards, and the bofors antitank gun was relatively eficient as well, so asuming the polish somehow organised their industry diferently and, with say more british aid, managed to produce say... 2000-3000 7tp tanks possibly partly with forein parts and buy a 1000 more bofors antitank field guns

at the same time the chekoslovakian gowerment is taken ower by the more radical komunist party, and beneš is pushed back into oposition
during 1938 the chekoslovakian army makes a stand and recives aid from the soviets
afcourse this is not enough to actually stop the germans but in 1939 the werhmarht is still buisy with moravia and the checks and slovaks give them one hell of a guerilla war after the german army fights trough the defences with nonnegligable losses

Having the Poles built more tanks you'd have to have them realize this is something worthwhile. OTL I believe they had a motorized brigade formed and perhaps a second forming, but I'm unsure of the second. There had been a lot of emphasis on "fast" divisions/troops during the thirties, i.e. combination of cavalry, tanks, armoured cars and motorized infantry that led to proper armoured formations of division size in the second half of the thirties. Yes, yes I know of the Experimental armoured brigade...
So it would have to be some late realization on basis of the big powers trend. The Poles would have to act quick.

Czekoslovakia - 1938 it didn't have a land border with the Soviet Union a major problem for said Union to support because of Polish and Romanian unwillingness to let Soviet Union troops march through their territory or let aircraft fly over. AND the Slovakians used the opportunity to get German-friendly independence.
But give the Czeks some sort of propping up, French/British assurances of support and they just may do it.

But that would be another scenario.;)
 
Polish industry simply wasn't able to produce more tanks or anti-tank cannons. Admittedly, if Poles had stopped selling their weapons abroad (to get money to develop industry), in 1939 they would have been better prepared. But 2000 7TP tanks? No way. Even half of it wasn't possible.
Building tanks is not enough. You have to train crews and mechanics to deal with them, and Poland as a country wasn't so mechanized as western Europe, so there were few recruits with any technological background. And even with strong armoured force, you need also mechanized infantry and artillery, not to mention good communication service. Polish industry was to weak to build that all. Polish constructors had some good ideas, but not the means to build their tanks in any significant number.
You may ask, why Poles selled so many weapons they needed. Simply - to gain money to develop their industry. They believed they would have more time to modernize their army. They didn't predict that Hitler would almost destroy German economy in his mad haste to rearm Germany and create an aggressive army.
So, Poles didn't have big mechanized units because they simply couldn't afford them. However, if they concentrated all they had in one strong corps, with cavalry support, thay might have hurt Germans badly - not enough to win, though. IOTL in 1939 a single Polish mechinized brigade (10th Cavalry Brigade) caused quite a lot of grief to whole German armoured corps, although all Poles could do was fighting delayed action.
 
I'm not sure how much British aid would or could be available. Britain was fast running down its currency reserves doing its own rearmament, a lot of the machine tools to recreate the home industry having to be bought from abroad (including IIRC Bofors subsidiaries in Poland, or something like that !).

Also, politically, before Chamberlain gave his early Summer 1939 guarantee to Poland, there was no Anglo-Polish alliance

Now, France perhaps ?

Best Regards
Grey Wolf
 
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